Chris Davis, 2019

[Tx Oriole]

3 hours ago, weams said:

He used PED's too! He Grew 6 inches one offseason - at age 25 I think!

Wow! 6 inches of growth at 25. I probably heard about it then but I have forgetten it. 

[spiritof66]

This point about Davis's future may have been made before. If so, sorry for the repetition.

It's my understanding that insuring against MLB players' injuries is far less common than it used to be. But that kind of insurance still exists (or more accurately, it existed in 2016, when the Orioles signed Davis to his contract). Davis's long-term contract, extending well into his 30s, would seem to be the kind that might be insured.

https://www.quora.com/How-much-do-MLB-teams-pay-to-insure-their-players#targetText=Baseball teams insure only long,increasing as that percentage rises.

If Davis, while still on the Orioles' roster, injures himself so that he is unable to keep playing -- I don't know the exact terms of an insurance policy that may not even exist -- the Orioles might be able to recoup some of the money they otherwise will be pissing away. If they release him, it's almost certain that possibility would be gone. I used to think the Orioles' nightmare scenario with respect to Davis was that they would release him, another team would sign him for the MLB minimum, and he would again become a productive hitter. Maybe the real nightmare scenario is that Davis would hook on with another team after being released and would soon suffer a career-ending injury. 

[Frobby]

1 hour ago, Tx Oriole said:

Wow! 6 inches of growth at 25. I probably heard about it then but I have forgetten it. 

It’s not accurate.   So no, you didn’t forget it.    

[LookinUp]

19 minutes ago, spiritof66 said:

I used to think the Orioles' nightmare scenario with respect to Davis was that they would release him, another team would sign him for the MLB minimum, and he would again become a productive hitter. Maybe the real nightmare scenario is that Davis would hook on with another team after being released and would soon suffer a career-ending injury. 

I think the nightmare scenario is the O's keeping him in hopes that he gets that injury while on our team. 

[DrungoHazewood]

37 minutes ago, spiritof66 said:

This point about Davis's future may have been made before. If so, sorry for the repetition.

It's my understanding that insuring against MLB players' injuries is far less common than it used to be. But that kind of insurance still exists (or more accurately, it existed in 2016, when the Orioles signed Davis to his contract). Davis's long-term contract, extending well into his 30s, would seem to be the kind that might be insured.

https://www.quora.com/How-much-do-MLB-teams-pay-to-insure-their-players#targetText=Baseball teams insure only long,increasing as that percentage rises.

If Davis, while still on the Orioles' roster, injures himself so that he is unable to keep playing -- I don't know the exact terms of an insurance policy that may not even exist -- the Orioles might be able to recoup some of the money they otherwise will be pissing away. If they release him, it's almost certain that possibility would be gone. I used to think the Orioles' nightmare scenario with respect to Davis was that they would release him, another team would sign him for the MLB minimum, and he would again become a productive hitter. Maybe the real nightmare scenario is that Davis would hook on with another team after being released and would soon suffer a career-ending injury. 

I think any long-term Chris Davis injury would be highly, highly scrutinized given the fact that he's far more valuable injured and off the roster than healthy and playing.  The odds of him getting a legitimate career-threatening injury while being a part-time first baseman seem very small.

[spiritof66]

18 minutes ago, DrungoHazewood said:

I think any long-term Chris Davis injury would be highly, highly scrutinized given the fact that he's far more valuable injured and off the roster than healthy and playing.  The odds of him getting a legitimate career-threatening injury while being a part-time first baseman seem very small.

Yes, it would have to be a real injury, and yes it's unlikely -- but more likely as Davis gets to his mid-30s.

David Segui was a first baseman, and he seemed to have no difficulty getting injured. 

[TGO]

6 hours ago, weams said:

You sure? I think he went from 6'3 to 6'9. It was certainly while he was in the majors. I'll look.

Page won't load but I remember watching his debut against the White Sox. He was at least 6'6 at that time.

[TonySoprano]

5 hours ago, weams said:

Ok. This is what my old friend Malcolm Allen says on it. And I definitely would say he is accurate. 

We have a starting point

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Even though he threw only 79 mph as a 6’6″, 160 lbs 17-year-old, the Orioles signed him in 1999 for $10,000.

9/28/06-8/14/07

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Cabrera nearly no-hit New York last September 28 at Yankee Stadium, but Cano -his friend and fellow San Pedro de Macoris, Dominican Republic native- singled with one out in the bottom of the ninth to ruin it.  Cabrera stood a mere 6’7″ then, but he’d grown to 6’9″ by his next starting assignment in the Bronx on August 14. 

Going from 6'6" at 17 to 6'7" is not at all unusual.   Growing 2" at age 25 would be.  However, Baseball reference has him listed as 6'7", 225 lb, so the referenced article is in dispute.

[mdbdotcom]

3 hours ago, TonySoprano said:

We have a starting point

9/28/06-8/14/07

Going from 6'6" at 17 to 6'7" is not at all unusual.   Growing 2" at age 25 would be.  However, Baseball reference has him listed as 6'7", 225 lb, so the referenced article is in dispute.

I was 6'2" at 17 and 5'4" at 25. Thanks happen.

[atomic]

9 hours ago, spiritof66 said:

This point about Davis's future may have been made before. If so, sorry for the repetition.

It's my understanding that insuring against MLB players' injuries is far less common than it used to be. But that kind of insurance still exists (or more accurately, it existed in 2016, when the Orioles signed Davis to his contract). Davis's long-term contract, extending well into his 30s, would seem to be the kind that might be insured.

https://www.quora.com/How-much-do-MLB-teams-pay-to-insure-their-players#targetText=Baseball teams insure only long,increasing as that percentage rises.

If Davis, while still on the Orioles' roster, injures himself so that he is unable to keep playing -- I don't know the exact terms of an insurance policy that may not even exist -- the Orioles might be able to recoup some of the money they otherwise will be pissing away. If they release him, it's almost certain that possibility would be gone. I used to think the Orioles' nightmare scenario with respect to Davis was that they would release him, another team would sign him for the MLB minimum, and he would again become a productive hitter. Maybe the real nightmare scenario is that Davis would hook on with another team after being released and would soon suffer a career-ending injury. 

Davis is not going to hook on with another team.  There is no market for first basemen who hit .179.  

[OsFanSinceThe80s]

32 minutes ago, atomic said:

Davis is not going to hook on with another team.  There is no market for first basemen who hit .179.  

Below .200 hitter whose power has evaporated and is 33 years old. Lucky thing Davis and his children’s children will never have to work another day in their lives.  

[24fps]

10 hours ago, DrungoHazewood said:

I think any long-term Chris Davis injury would be highly, highly scrutinized given the fact that he's far more valuable injured and off the roster than healthy and playing.  The odds of him getting a legitimate career-threatening injury while being a part-time first baseman seem very small.

Is Tonya Harding's ex-boyfriend out of jail yet?

[GuidoSarducci]

I wonder if Khris Davis is the next Chris Davis.   Low BA/high K player who used to put up 40+ HR now can barely manage 20, is hitting in the low 200s.   Only different is contract is not quite the albatross of CD.

[spiritof66]

11 hours ago, atomic said:

Davis is not going to hook on with another team.  There is no market for first basemen who hit .179.  

I don't know whether Davis would want to do it, but I can imagine a team inviting him to ST in the hope it can "fix" him to the point where he's worth the MLB minimum. I'm not saying that it would happen, just that the possibility might affect the Orioles' willingness to cut him loose.

[murph]

11 hours ago, GuidoSarducci said:

I wonder if Khris Davis is the next Chris Davis.   Low BA/high K player who used to put up 40+ HR now can barely manage 20, is hitting in the low 200s.   Only different is contract is not quite the albatross of CD.

I think you are going to see a bit of a resurgence of Khris Davis, since it has been deemed so by the baseball gods that he has to end the season with a batting average exactly at .247, he should have a bit of an offensive surge coming to finish out the season....but not TOO much of a surge. 

Yea, that deal is not looking as good now, but we'd all happily exchange the Davis's if we could.