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Actions Speak Louder than Words

I agree, his statement could have been written by any PR man on Madison Avenue. I'll be impressed with him when I see him on a mound, in an Orioles minor league uniform. Until then, it's just agent blather. I doubt that the offers Jordan has been making up until now haven't been "fair." Agents no longer have to negotiate through the press, they can just use the Hangout or other fan forums.

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Mike B Veteran All-Star

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Through the Hangout, Brian Matusz speaks directly to Orioles fans regarding his current negotiations.

http://www.orioleshangout.com/ttakeArticle.asp?ID=1703&page=ttake

Thanks for sharing this with us Tony. I wonder if this type of communication has ever been done before?? It speaks well of the young man that he would try to reach out to the fans and it certainly backs up Roch's comments that he and his family were reading the message boards. I would be shocked if he is not signed. It seems to be in fashion for the top picks to hold out to the last moment. It does increase the danger of not signing but history will probably repeat and we will wake up Saturday morning with a new Oriole.

One last thing. I have seen many comparisons to Matusz and former Oriole Bedard (on the mound). Could anyone see Bedard using this or any other web site to communicate with the fans??

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Actions Speak Louder than Words

As usual the glass half empty approach, and you are right it does not mean squat until he signs, but his words (most likely helped on by an agent) speak well of the young man. He will sign and we will be happy. I am a glass half full guy.

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I'm sorry, but I do not get this game of chicken they seem to be playing. If Matusz signs first, then he sets the market for Crow instead of it working the other way around. Do we not know the market value for our pick? Give it to him. If we have offered it and the agent is holding out, the latter is an idiot.

Mental note: Never let TonySoprano handle any of my personal negotiations. :laughlol:

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As usual the glass half empty approach, and you are right it does not mean squat until he signs, but his words (most likely helped on by an agent) speak well of the young man. He will sign and we will be happy. I am a glass half full guy.

I suppose that depends on how you define the word "fair" in his statement where he says he'll sign as soon as he receives a "fair" offer. Without knowing what the offer is, it is diffcult for us to know how to feel about his effort to communicate to the fans.

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Note: Try to hang on to every nickle and dime at this point in the negotiations and start to plan ahead for the #5 pick next year.

Is that how it works? They're guaranteed the #5 pick? (Wondering if we get bumped for various reasons...)

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Is that how it works? They're guaranteed the #5 pick? (Wondering if we get bumped for various reasons...)
According to MacPhail:
In the event we don't sign him, which we hope will not be the case, but if that is the case, you have the 5th pick next year. You are not being penalized, you are being deferred."
Source - MASN
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I hope he signs. I would be surprised if the Os have not offered a fair deal. If the Os have offered slot, he would be complaining about $2.75M as not fair.

Precisely...The definition of fair is the issue.

Have the Orioles offered less than what the 4th pick received last year? If they have, then Matusz is right in saying he hasn't received a fair offer.

The bottom line is you can roughly figure out what it should be...What percentage does this go up every year? 2%? 5%? 10%? 20%?

Is 3 million the right number? 3.2 million?

End of the day, it shouldn't be too difficult to figure out.

Last year, Moskos got 2.5 million but the year before, Lincoln got 2.75 million. So, i am guessing this is part of the problem..Moskos signing for less than what happened in 2006 and I am sure Matusz wants more than 2006, or at least as much as Lincoln got in 2006.

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Is that how it works? They're guaranteed the #5 pick? (Wondering if we get bumped for various reasons...)

Well this depends...If teams drafting ahead of the Orioles don't get their picks signed, then they get a higher pick then #5, so the Orioles pick will slide down.

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Man, he is pretty much calling the Orioles out here. I can't imagine this makes the Orioles very happy. He isn't making any friends within his new organization. Saying he will sign when he receives a fair offer is a pretty open slap in the face to the Orioles who have said they are being fair with him.

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