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16 hours ago, Roll Tide said:

Actually 9 counting Strasburg.

Interesting

 

10 hours ago, Greg Pappas said:

Jim Callis--13 names to watch ahead of the Rule 5 Draft:

https://www.mlb.com/news/rule-5-draft-names-to-watch?t=mlb-pipeline-coverage

Very interesting that the Nats have 9 spots and didn't protect a guy that is listed in this list. 

That essentially means they think they will sign 9 better guys, right?  Or is the GM just hungover from celebrating and didn't add a full set.  Haha

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12 hours ago, Greg Pappas said:

Jim Callis--13 names to watch ahead of the Rule 5 Draft:

https://www.mlb.com/news/rule-5-draft-names-to-watch?t=mlb-pipeline-coverage

For all the people who thought we didn't need to protect Ryan McKenna, I thought it was interesting that Callis listed Buddy Reed as one of his 13 most intriguing names when Reed is quite similar to McKenna as a plus defensive center-fielder with plus speed and untapped raw power who didn't set the world on fire in his first try at AA in 2019, except slightly worse in every way (K/rate, k/bb, OBP, BA, slightly below league average OPS at AA, while McKenna was slightly above average) while also being a full two years older.

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14 minutes ago, MurphDogg said:

For all the people who thought we should protect Ryan McKenna, I thought it was interesting that Callis listed Buddy Reed as one of his 13 most intriguing names when Reed is quite similar to McKenna as a plus defensive center-fielder with plus speed and untapped raw power who didn't set the world on fire in his first try at AA in 2019, except slightly worse in every way (K/rate, k/bb, OBP, BA, slightly below league average OPS at AA, while McKenna was slightly above average) while also being a full two years older.

Nice comparison. 

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16 minutes ago, jerios55 said:

 

Very interesting that the Nats have 9 spots and didn't protect a guy that is listed in this list. 

That essentially means they think they will sign 9 better guys, right?  Or is the GM just hungover from celebrating and didn't add a full set.  Haha

The Nationals had a lot of guys become free agents this year.  My guess is many will either be re-signed or replaced by signing similar free agents - especially in the bullpen.  Rendon looks to be the big one that they will have to let go, as they really couldn't afford to sign both Strasburg and Rendon.  I don't think Rule 5 is really in their plans.  You never know, though.

https://www.spotrac.com/mlb/free-agents/washington-nationals/

 

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15 minutes ago, Number5 said:

The Nationals had a lot of guys become free agents this year.  My guess is many will either be re-signed or replaced by signing similar free agents - especially in the bullpen.  Rendon looks to be the big one that they will have to let go, as they really couldn't afford to sign both Strasburg and Rendon.  I don't think Rule 5 is really in their plans.  You never know, though.

https://www.spotrac.com/mlb/free-agents/washington-nationals/

 

I'm certainly not expecting them in the Rule V, and even if they did it would be 1, not 9.

However, they could add a 40 man now and wait later to put him on waivers in an attempt to stash him.  We certainly have experience doing that.  They may also not be too worried about losing him and/or think he would likely come back.

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1 hour ago, 7Mo said:

Isn't that what Detroit just did?

Correct me if I'm wrong, but the deadline was to protect your own players. Nothing keeps the O's or anyone from opening another spot now. 

That’s what I’m wondering, I think your conclusion is correct, but I just want to make sure. The reason I ask is because everybody seems to think we’re going to take three guys on Thursday, but we only have two spots.

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3 minutes ago, Philip said:

That’s what I’m wondering, I think your conclusion is correct, but I just want to make sure. The reason I ask is because everybody seems to think we’re going to take three guys on Thursday, but we only have two spots.

I doubt we take 3.     

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24 minutes ago, Philip said:

We might, it seems we can certainly free up a spot, and there’s no reason not to take a chance on a promising guy. But with only two spots open and an inexplicable desire to keep David Hess, I agree it’s doubtful.

I imagine they will sign a player or two to a Major League contract before spring training, a starter and/or a middle infielder. So I would imagine Hess or another back-end guy like Wynns or Dwight Smith, Jr. would go then.

I would be pretty surprised if the Orioles took 3 players, knowing they wouldn't be able to keep that many for the season.

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1 hour ago, MurphDogg said:

I imagine they will sign a player or two to a Major League contract before spring training, a starter and/or a middle infielder. So I would imagine Hess or another back-end guy like Wynns or Dwight Smith, Jr. would go then.

I agree completely that the bottom five guys on 40 man should not unpack their bags, but Wynns and Smith are probably safe for the moment.I would imagine most of the turnover is going to be in pitching, and guys like Hanhold or Sulser(Not even sure I’m spelling the names right) are likely goners.

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We have had time to look at the list and know what we want.  I would imagine they know what they were thinking of going after and Diplan was higher than at least a potential 3rd guy and has an option to boot. 

IDK if 3 was ever the plan, but I would think that ship has sailed at this point.  One pitcher and one MI guy would be more than enough really.

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4 minutes ago, jerios55 said:

We have had time to look at the list and know what we want.  I would imagine they know what they were thinking of going after and Diplan was higher than at least a potential 3rd guy and has an option to boot. 

IDK if 3 was ever the plan, but I would think that ship has sailed at this point.  One pitcher and one MI guy would be more than enough really.

Agreed with the only difference being I think we likely take one in the minor league phase also. 

That's not what people have meant when they say take 3 but it'd be a third. 

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1 hour ago, 7Mo said:

Agreed with the only difference being I think we likely take one in the minor league phase also. 

That's not what people have meant when they say take 3 but it'd be a third. 

Fair, I've taken enough times to basically know the major league Rule V.  I've definitely never bothered with the minor league version.  I hope our team uses it well, but I barely know the names for major leagues even  after Luke tells me a bunch of them.  Haha

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