Kyle Bradish - breakout candidate?

[Luke-OH]

Check out this 5 part thread and discuss here. 

 

[Frobby]

I’m really excited to watch our MiL pitchers in 2020.    There’s a lot of interesting arms at every level.    Bradish is certainly one of them.     

[Luke-OH]

17 minutes ago, RZNJ said:

I don't know.  Looks almost like a slider.  Breaks a little early for a true cutter.  No?

The first video? Because that is his 4S fastball.

[sportsfan8703]

Interesting stuff. Bradish seems like he’s got better stuff than most of what I saw at the MLB level from our SP last year. 

@Luke-OH Why was the cutter so in a few years ago?  Mariano Rivera effect?

[Luke-OH]

Just now, sportsfan8703 said:

Interesting stuff. Bradish seems like he’s got better stuff than most of what I saw at the MLB level from our SP last year. 

@Luke-OH Why was the cutter so in a few years ago?  Mariano Rivera effect?

It gained popularity as a way for pitchers who lost velocity to avoid hard contact against their fastball. Now it's just used as part of a well rounded arsenal. It's useful for pitchers with a high 3/4 or over the top arm slot who have trouble creating horizontal action on a slider because of the difficultly getting around the ball from that slot. 

 

[Frobby]

2 hours ago, Luke-OH said:

It gained popularity as a way for pitchers who lost velocity to avoid hard contact against their fastball. Now it's just used as part of a well rounded arsenal. It's useful for pitchers with a high 3/4 or over the top arm slot who have trouble creating horizontal action on a slider because of the difficultly getting around the ball from that slot. 

 

You know who had a great cutter?    Bedard.   He’d throw a few 95-96 mph true fastballs and then throw a 90-91 mph cutter and the batters didn’t know what to do with it.    And of course, he had that ridiculous curve.    Really a devastating three-pitch combo, when he was healthy.   

[interloper]

1 hour ago, Frobby said:

You know who had a great cutter?    Bedard.   He’d throw a few 95-96 mph true fastballs and then throw a 90-91 mph cutter and the batters didn’t know what to do with it.    And of course, he had that ridiculous curve.    Really a devastating three-pitch combo, when he was healthy.   

Bedard was the last truly dominant Orioles starter - and that was over a decade ago. Bundy had a few games here and there a year or so ago when the slider was insane where I thought: this is Bedard-level dominance in terms of K's. It was fleeting, of course.

[interloper]

I like Bradish!

His arsenal reminds me of Chris Tillman with a hopefully more repeatable delivery. Tillman obviously had a much different fastball because he was all about throwing it up above the zone in his hey-day. But the 12-6 curve and fading change makes me think Tillman. 

[Tony-OH]

15 hours ago, Luke-OH said:

The first video? Because that is his 4S fastball.

Maybe it's not coming across right, but I only see one video in the OP and it's his cutter/slider.

[Redskins Rick]

3 hours ago, Frobby said:

You know who had a great cutter?    Bedard.   He’d throw a few 95-96 mph true fastballs and then throw a 90-91 mph cutter and the batters didn’t know what to do with it.    And of course, he had that ridiculous curve.    Really a devastating three-pitch combo, when he was healthy.   

Palmer said Bedard probably had the best overall stuff, then any other lefty in Oriole History.

I think some could argue a few others had better stuff, but to just be considered as one of the better lefties that the Org has had, was something.

 

[LookinUp]

1 hour ago, Tony-OH said:

Maybe it's not coming across right, but I only see one video in the OP and it's his cutter/slider.

If you click on the tweet, instead of the video, you will see the full thread.

[interloper]

Had a feeling posting just the first tweet in the thread would be risky lol. Follow instructions people!!

[Just Regular]

I'm fudging the bump thread rule as a hat tip to Luke - I thought by January 2020 he'd been scooped up, but I guess it must have been not long after that.

Anyway, MLB.com Mayo has lots of substantial quotes from Blood and Perez on the main guys, and some others.

https://www.mlb.com/news/orioles-minor-league-spring-training-report?fbclid=IwAR1Bp9TGNa2HH4bb9HNtXUBAB6WQrfKwAqKCe-mFap9FdoyYMETa5PB9RVE

As is tradition, Blood loves him some Bradish like Elias loves him some Rio Ruiz.    We'll start seeing in a few more weeks.

Mayo got I guess enough juice in his Joey Ortiz quotes to give him a section of the overview.

“Ortiz has gotten stronger, the bat has gotten louder,” Blood said. “He’s always been a really good defender, he’s a true shortstop. Now he’s added more noise to his offense. That’s elevated him to another level. I think he’s an every day Major League middle infielder. He’s a good baseball player who could do all the things before but the bat was light. The bat is no longer light. That completely changes his profile.”

[HowAboutThat]

When will we see him?

[jabba72]

Joey Ortiz isnt even on any prospect lists that im aware off either. Thats encouraging news if he can stick at SS. I do see he is rated 36th on fangraphs Orioles top 45, with a 35+ rating. Not exactly eye opening. Grenier is ranked 21st. Ortiz is the lowest rated MI on that list. 

Age	22.6	Height	5′ 11″	Weight	175	Bat / Thr	R / R	FV	35+

Tool Grades (Present/Future)

Hit	Raw Power	Game Power	Run	Fielding	Throw
30/45	40/45	30/35	55/55	50/60	55

Ortiz is a glove-first shortstop prospect whose offensive production in college was ultra-inflated by the Las Cruces altitude. His swing, unaltered since college to my eye, is long and only capable of doing pull-side damage. The glove gives him a good shot to be a utility infielder but that outcome is dependent on something more developing on offense. (Fall Instructional League)