Rodriguez/Hall

[Orioles0615]

14 hours ago, Yossarian said:

According to MLB.com, Baltimore has the #10 rated RHP and #10 rated LHP prospects for 2020.  That's not a bad way to begin the re-build.

I am glad we have a different development department in place, because I have seen this story twice before over the past 8 years. I want to believe and we have the right guys in place for once, but man part of me is still skeptical.

[Moose Milligan]

11 hours ago, Can_of_corn said:

We know you have low standards.

I mean, I interact with you on here, so...yeah.

[wildcard]

11 hours ago, Frobby said:

 

I’ve been meaning to have a look at the success rate of these types of pitching prospects in recent years.    I’ve seen research on this topic from time to time, but I’m not sure I’ve seen anything in a few years.    But bottom line, fewer than half of these 20 prospects will become reliable starters, I expect.

Ugh.

[Frobby]

11 minutes ago, wildcard said:

Ugh.

Here’s a really good article I found:  https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.royalsreview.com/platform/amp/2018/3/22/16749948/updating-the-success-and-failure-rates-of-top-mlb-prospects.  I haven’t read it super-carefully, but it appears to support my finger-to-the-wind assessment.   

[Just Regular]

It's long odds both become stars, but there's still big deltas if the one that doesn't can do Arthur Rhodes/Zack Britton type things.

My broadest perspective today on the Top 4 IP guys on the peak Rutschman teams is:

-the better Rodriguez/Hall outcome

-the better Hancock/Rocker outcome

-the best Akin/Kremer/Baumann/Lowther/everyone else outcome

-John Means?

With the daydream Rocker can do the Strasburg 11 months to the show thing and the 2022 core will merit deploying the talent that fast.

[Yossarian]

17 hours ago, Yossarian said:

According to MLB.com, Baltimore has the #10 rated RHP and #10 rated LHP prospects for 2020.  That's not a bad way to begin the re-build.

Add to that the top rated catcher prospect (from the article today).

[Frobby]

On 1/16/2020 at 12:12 PM, Yossarian said:

Add to that the top rated catcher prospect (from the article today).

And the no. 4 1B prospect.  http://m.mlb.com/prospects/2020?list=1b

[HowAboutThat]

On 1/16/2020 at 10:33 AM, OrioleDog said:

It's long odds both become stars, but there's still big deltas if the one that doesn't can do Arthur Rhodes/Zack Britton type things.

My broadest perspective today on the Top 4 IP guys on the peak Rutschman teams is:

-the better Rodriguez/Hall outcome

-the better Hancock/Rocker outcome

-the best Akin/Kremer/Baumann/Lowther/everyone else outcome

-John Means?

With the daydream Rocker can do the Strasburg 11 months to the show thing and the 2022 core will merit deploying the talent that fast.

I cannot believe I do not know this, but who is Rocket? And who is Hancock for that matter? I don’t remember either name.

[HowAboutThat]

16 minutes ago, Frobby said:

And the no. 4 1B prospect.  http://m.mlb.com/prospects/2020?list=1b

Oh my God, here’s a scouting report that makes negative comments about Mountcastle defense…

[Frobby]

2 minutes ago, Philip said:

Oh my God, here’s a scouting report that makes negative comments about Mountcastle defense…

“Drafted as a shortstop, he moved to third in 2017 and played there exclusively in 2018. With a below-average arm and limited range, he moved to first in 2019 then got some work in left field.”

I wouldn’t say that sheds any light on how he was at 1B or LF.

[ArtVanDelay]

6 minutes ago, Philip said:

I cannot believe I do not know this, but who is Rocket? And who is Hancock for that matter? I don’t remember either name.

Hancock is a pitcher from Georgia who is a expected to be a top 2 or 3 pick in this year's draft.  Rocker is a pitcher from Vanderbilt who is the early favorite to be the top pick in 2021.

[HowAboutThat]

1 minute ago, ArtVanDelay said:

Hancock is a pitcher from Georgia who is a expected to be a top 2 or 3 pick in this year's draft.  Rocker is a pitcher from Vanderbilt who is the early favorite to be the top pick in 2021.

Ok no wonder I haven’t heard of them. I doubt we will be in a position to draft either.

Well, Hancock, of course....

Edited January 17, 2020 by Philip

[ArtVanDelay]

Just now, Philip said:

Ok no wonder I haven’t heard of them. I doubt we will be in a position to draft either.

Well, Hancock, of course....

Why?  There's a decent chance we could get both.  I expect us to have the top pick in 2021.  Of course other players could put themselves in position for that pick by then. 

[HowAboutThat]

32 minutes ago, ArtVanDelay said:

Why?  There's a decent chance we could get both.  I expect us to have the top pick in 2021.  Of course other players could put themselves in position for that pick by then. 

We are picking number two this summer, and we can’t change that, but I would be extremely disappointed if we have a top five pick next summer

[PaulFolk]

Just now, Philip said:

We are picking number two this summer, and we can’t change that, but I would be extremely disappointed if we have a top five pick next summer

Prepare to be disappointed. I don't see the Orioles avoiding being one of the five worst teams this year.