Random and unconnected thoughts and observations

[DrungoHazewood]

Ever notice how eerily similar the career records of Greg Maddux and Tim Keefe are? One only pitched 13 years in a deadball era game without a pitcher's mound, the other 23 years and counting in a completely different game. But they're within a few wins and losses of each other, both right around 5000 IP, both faced a little over 20000 batters, both walked right around 1000 of them.

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Ever think of what would have happened if Jerome Holtzman had defined a save as requiring two innings of work? Two inning saves were commonplace when the stat started being officially tracked in '69. Seems reasonable that they could have gone with a more demanding rule.

My thought is that everyone would have two-inning closers, and there'd be a lot of talk about how some pitchers just can't get more than six outs effectively. The save record would be somewhere around 25 or 30, and the career mark would be about 300. That would put it on a more even standard with pitcher's wins, which is probably what Holtzman had in mind, anyway.

Oh, and a standard bullpen would have 2-3 fewer pitchers because two innings would be the standard length every reliever is judged against. And today's bullpen ERAs would be a quarter-run higher.

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Can anyone tell me what Chris Waters and Steve Rosenberg have in common?

[Frobby]

Ever notice how eerily similar the career records of Greg Maddux and Tim Keefe are?

Funny, now that you mention it, I never heard of Tim Keefe.