Chris Shaw claimed from Giants

[HowAboutThat]

2 hours ago, LookinUp said:

If you view Shaw as a known quantity, then it doesn’t make sense. If you view him as a guy with a potential that you want take give a shot to unlock, then it makes perfect sense.

Why? We’ve already got several of him. Even if he’s good, we have no place to play him.. even if we dumped Davis, we’d STILL have no place to play him. And it sure looks like he’s NOT good.

[jabba72]

Seems like the O's are really interested in LH hitters. First Kjerstad now Shaw. I wonder if they view him as an upgrade to any of the other OF prospects. 

[Can_of_corn]

4 minutes ago, jabba72 said:

Seems like the O's are really interested in LH hitters. First Kjerstad now Shaw. I wonder if they view him as an upgrade to any of the other OF prospects. 

I don't think their is much of a connection between drafting Kjerstad and claiming Shaw.

[ScGO's]

They are going to DFA Shaw and try to pass him through waivers so he can be our AAA 1B.  We have very little 1B depth in the minors.  OF is a little thin in AAA as well, so if he passes through unclaimed, its a great move by Elias.  Its insurance for Mancini as well. 

[Roll Tide]

3 hours ago, weams said:

 

Nice pickup .l..Lots of success with the bat in the minors 275/337/816. He was nearly an automatic out in 72 ABs this season.

[Jammer7]

Looks like a guy they may DFA and pass through waivers, if possible. I know very little about him, but perhaps he is a guy who needs an adjustment or two from what video they have watched on him. I will be watching some video tonight at work. 

He is a LH power bat, which we have very few. Why not take a look and see what you have? What did it cost? Eshelman, maybe?

Not one of the other 29 teams claimed Renato Nunez. Not one team thinks he is worth what he will get in arbitration. This is my shocked face.

It's a waiver claim, good grief.  Lots of predictable posts in this thread, . Happy Thanksgiving!

[LookinUp]

1 hour ago, Philip said:

Why? We’ve already got several of him. Even if he’s good, we have no place to play him.. even if we dumped Davis, we’d STILL have no place to play him. And it sure looks like he’s NOT good.

I don't know exactly why, but it's fair to assume that they think he has more potential than whatever other stuff was available, right? 

[HowAboutThat]

Just now, LookinUp said:

I don't know exactly why, but it's fair to assume that they think he has more potential than whatever other stuff was available, right? 

Well, yes, it’s obvious that they claimed him because they wanted him. The question is why did they want him, because he’s not obviously better than the alternatives. Maybe they think they can fix him, maybe they’re going to continue to pretend Mountcastle is an outfielder? Maybe they don’t think Mancini can come back as a top baseball player even though he has come back as a convalescent? I don’t know, But, it’s November, what else are we gonna talk about?

[Number5]

1 hour ago, Aristotelian said:

Cheaper than Nunez and lefty. That said I would be surprised if he makes our Opening Day roster. A little surprised to lose Eshelman but I'm not broken up about it.

Eshelman isn't lost yet.  He was DFA, not released.

[Number5]

1 hour ago, Philip said:

Why? We’ve already got several of him. Even if he’s good, we have no place to play him.. even if we dumped Davis, we’d STILL have no place to play him. And it sure looks like he’s NOT good.

Hard to agree with any of this.  We aren't loaded with LH power.  We have room for him in AAA.  He has an option and if we need the 40 man spot, we can try to DFA him and pass him thru waivers.  And a .947 OPS looks pretty good to me, even in PCL.  Or are you focusing only on 72 MLB at bats in 2 cups of coffee?  This is a minor transaction that could bear fruit at little to no cost or risk.  Why get distraught over this?

[Jammer7]

5 minutes ago, Philip said:

Well, yes, it’s obvious that they claimed him because they wanted him. The question is why did they want him, because he’s not obviously better than the alternatives. Maybe they think they can fix him, maybe they’re going to continue to pretend Mountcastle is an outfielder? Maybe they don’t think Mancini can come back as a top baseball player even though he has come back as a convalescent? I don’t know, But, it’s November, what else are we gonna talk about?

Have you seen him play, or maybe watched video of Shaw? I am about 30 minutes into it, and there is a lot to like and some to not. The major league stats, no. But the 6-04 225-230 pound athletic frame and 70 power that he has shown throughout his minor league time, yes. Looks like the hands work well. His load can be late, sometimes gets the foot down late, and he gets long at times. He sometimes has a leg kick, sometimes not. Maybe get him to simplify the lower half and take some of the hand load out to simplify his timing. He looks like a pull hitter, at least in the Fangraphs spray chart in his MLB time. He moves well for a big guy, but a 40-45 runner. Arm looks like about a 50. I can see why they took him. 

He has an option, whereas Nunez did not. LH power bats are not a common thing. 

If they like him, they may not waive him for a while, despite the nearly 50% k rate in 82 MLB at bats. Someone else will grab him. I just watched him hit a 468 foot home run , albeit in Colorado, but it was a bomb. 

https://www.mlb.com/player/chris-shaw-622046?stats=career-r-hitting-minors&year=2020

https://www.fangraphs.com/players/chris-shaw/17738/stats?position=OF

[spiritof66]

3 hours ago, oriole said:

Nice! He can battle it out with Mancini, Davis, Mountcastle, Stewart, Santander, Sisco, McKenna, Nevins, Diaz for those corner OF, 1B, and DH opportunities. 
 

 

Save a few late-season DH plate appearances for Rutschman.

I guess if Shaw puts up some really impressive numbers in Norfolk he'll be insurance in the event of injuries or a useful trade piece. 

[Jammer7]

1 hour ago, Roll Tide said:

Nice pickup .l..Lots of success with the bat in the minors 275/337/816. He was nearly an automatic out in 72 ABs this season.

He has an .861 career OPS in the minors. .279/.340/.520/.861

https://www.mlb.com/player/chris-shaw-622046?stats=career-r-hitting-minors&year=2020

https://www.fangraphs.com/players/chris-shaw/17738/stats?position=OF

[HowAboutThat]

27 minutes ago, Number5 said:

Hard to agree with any of this.  We aren't loaded with LH power.  We have room for him in AAA.  He has an option and if we need the 40 man spot, we can try to DFA him and pass him thru waivers.  And a .947 OPS looks pretty good to me, even in PCL.  Or are you focusing only on 72 MLB at bats in 2 cups of coffee?  This is a minor transaction that could bear fruit at little to no cost or risk.  Why get distraught over this?

I’m not upset, I was just wondering why. Someone else made the comment that the Likely intent was to slip him through waivers and have him be first base at Norfolk, which is reasonable. But no, we’ve got a lot of first baseman types already and we don’t need another one, even if he’s left-handed. And yes, in his cup of coffee he was lousy, and it was only a cup of coffee, but remember the jump between triple A And the majors is the biggest jump of them all, and it is to be expected that most players don’t make the jump. So the onus is on him to prove that he can.

[Frobby]

2 hours ago, OrioleDog said:

It's a poor man's Brandon Belt fantasy come to life!

I do confess the tiniest shred of interest in what left-handed sluggers first weeks outside AT&T as their home field look like, but he and Renato trading spots are just another mid-rebuild expression of what the churn of replacement level players looks like in real life.

Well, the Giants do owe us one minor leaguer who’s much better than anyone thought.