Hanser Alberto has been non-tendered

[scOtt]

Just now, Sports Guy said:

Lol...can I please hear from people how this ownership group isn’t being cheap?

BTw, I don’t really care that Alberto is being non tendered but they essentially just got rid of 3 relatively productive players that were going to make a total of about 8M between them...pennies on the dollar and they are all too expensive for them?

Is what it is. 2020 is a different kind of year. I highly doubt we are the only team going on the cheap.

[scOtt]

Just now, andrewochs615 said:

*glances at SS in next years FA class*

I gotta believe he'll find something good somehow. He found Iggy on the cheap...

[Tony-OH]

1 hour ago, Camden_yardbird said:

Re. Elias' explanation.

TL:DR.  "We're cheap."

Or it's "He's not worth the tender."  

Alberto is a fun guy to like, but he's a guy you like a lot better when he's cheap. His defense fell off last year and his empty average offense really doesn't add much to an offense.

If the Orioles can resign him to a minor league contract with a spring training invite and give him a chance to win a utility job than I'm good with that. But, with Sanchez, Urias and Valaika on board, Alberto is extraneous. 

[Frobby]

41 minutes ago, scOtt said:

BTW, Sanchez at $1 mill is WAY better than his projected arb raise to $6.something million!

I never thought he’d get that. 

[scOtt]

Just now, Frobby said:

I never thought he’d get that. 

The 6? Me neither. But $3 mill was a possibility. I think...

[scOtt]

Just now, scOtt said:

The 6? Me neither. But $3 mill was a possibility. I think...

A Penny saved is a penny earned.

[Frobby]

Just now, scOtt said:

The 6? Me neither. But $3 mill was a possibility. I think...

He would’ve gotten more than the $1 mm we signed him for, for sure.   The Arb system has developed some pretty bad flaws.    

[scOtt]

Just now, Frobby said:

He would’ve gotten more than the $1 mm we signed him for, for sure.   The Arb system has developed some pretty bad flaws.    

That will get "solved" after the 2021 strike/lockout...

[Sports Guy]

48 minutes ago, scOtt said:

Is what it is. 2020 is a different kind of year. I highly doubt we are the only team going on the cheap.

The problem is, we were already going cheap.  Atlanta is spending.  You can still spend.  In fact, you can probably get some great deals.  

[owknows]

58 minutes ago, Sports Guy said:

Lol...can I please hear from people how this ownership group isn’t being cheap?

BTw, I don’t really care that Alberto is being non tendered but they essentially just got rid of 3 relatively productive players that were going to make a total of about 8M between them...pennies on the dollar and they are all too expensive for them?

Ever seen the movie Trading Places?

Randolph Elias bet Mortimer Angelos $1 that he could win an AL East Pennant with a payroll less than $10 million

[scOtt]

Just now, Sports Guy said:

The problem is, we were already going cheap.  Atlanta is spending.  You can still spend.  In fact, you can probably get some great deals.  

Do you disagree that they lost money last year? Or at least lost all their profits? We didn't make the playoffs so no bonus payoff. No fans is no bueno.

[scOtt]

Just now, owknows said:

Ever seen the movie Trading Places?

Randolph Elias bet Mortimer Angelos $1 that he could win an AL East Pennant with a payroll less than $10 million

TURN THOSE MACHINES BACK ON!!!!!

[Roll Tide]

6 hours ago, scOtt said:

Do you disagree that they lost money last year? Or at least lost all their profits? We didn't make the playoffs so no bonus payoff. No fans is no bueno.

Sounds like we are making excuses for them? 
 

The Angelos family has plenty of money.

[Sports Guy]

8 hours ago, Tony-OH said:

Or it's "He's not worth the tender."  

Alberto is a fun guy to like, but he's a guy you like a lot better when he's cheap. His defense fell off last year and his empty average offense really doesn't add much to an offense.

If the Orioles can resign him to a minor league contract with a spring training invite and give him a chance to win a utility job than I'm good with that. But, with Sanchez, Urias and Valaika on board, Alberto is extraneous. 

I’d rather have Alberto than Valaika.  I trust his defense and his bat more.  His BA may be empty but if you use him as a platoon guy, he has value.

Valaika has some pop in his bat but this is also a guy who struggled to hit in Coors at times and he isn’t that good defensively.  I do like his attitude on the field and things like that and don’t mind him as a UTI guy when he is cheap but I don’t want him getting much more than 150-200 at bats.

[Can_of_corn]

8 hours ago, scOtt said:

Do you disagree that they lost money last year? Or at least lost all their profits? We didn't make the playoffs so no bonus payoff. No fans is no bueno.

Unless they open the books I'm not giving them any benefit of the doubt.