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Who's the #9 prospect?


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Who's the number nine prospect?  

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  1. 1. Who's the number nine prospect?

    • Ryan Adams
      3
    • Zach Britton
      19
    • Brandon Erbe
      103
    • David Hernandez
      19
    • LJ Hoes
      21


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First of all I want to correct Slappy12, as of today Hernandez and Bergesen are both 23yrs old, David being 4mo and 12 days older, not too old by any standards. So that shouldn't come to play. I believe Hernandez is a much better prospect than Bergesen. In regards of Bergesen having better numbers, you should do better research. We all know what problem David has, which is his command and I've know David for a long time and command was never been an issue until he became a professional, not in high school and not in college, so I am convinced that Hernandez can overcome his command issues because of his work ethics and determination. So this comparison of Bergesen and Hernandez is pretty silly.

A comparison isn't silly because YOU are "convinced" that a pitcher will overcome his flaws. Not everyone is convinced. I'm pretty high on Hernandez, but you're fundamentally irrational.

You're right, however, when you say that Bergesen did not have better numbers (save for wins and walks) than DH. DH's numbers (BAA, ERA, K/9, H/9) were all fantastic.

As for Spoone - his odds are better than they were even five years ago. That said, it's still a long road back.

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I'm pretty sure it's not Erbe...Tony has suggested all along that there will be a surprising prospect to wind up outside the top 10, and his further hints have indicated that it's probably Erbe. It's also well known that Tony thinks Hernandez is a backend starter or power reliever at best--which is nothing to sneeze at, but Tony values upside and will probably go with someone with a higher ceiling here.

I'm a big fan of both Britton and Hoes; both were in my top 10. I love groundball pitchers, and Britton is a groundball machine; I'm very impressed that his numbers were this good despite having a weak infield defense (cough cough Ryan Adams cough cough) behind him. I also love young position players like Hoes who combine tools with baseball intelligence.

I voted for Hoes by a nose, but if it's not Hoes I'm pretty sure we'll see Britton here.

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A comparison isn't silly because YOU are "convinced" that a pitcher will overcome his flaws. Not everyone is convinced. I'm pretty high on Hernandez, but you're fundamentally irrational.

You're right, however, when you say that Bergesen did not have better numbers (save for wins and walks) than DH. DH's numbers (BAA, ERA, K/9, H/9) were all fantastic.

As for Spoone - his odds are better than they were even five years ago. That said, it's still a long road back.

What I was referring to as silly is when Enjoy Terror had mention age as a comparison.

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Britton should be ahead of your boy...He is younger and has a higher ceiling.

You're probably right since Tony had him ahead of Hernandez in last year list and he had a pretty solid season in Delmarva. So maybe it's Erbe, Brtitton, and then Hernandez.

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I know there has been a lot of nice things that have been said about Hoes, but didn't he just play in a gloried high school league(GCL) as Tony as mentioned many times. I still would like to see if he can put up those types of numbers in Delmarva or maybe Aberdeen before I decide to put him in the Top 10. I believe he has the potential but lets see him do it at a higher level.

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I know there has been a lot of nice things that have been said about Hoes, but didn't he just play in a gloried high school league(GCL) as Tony as said many times. I still would like to see if he can put up those types of numbers in Delmarva or maybe Aberdeen before I decide to put him in the Top 10. I believe he has the potential but lets see him do it at a higher level.

I agree with this (though admittedly I think I had him at 11 or 12 in the top 30 thread). I have essentially the same view of him that I did on draft day. He's very solid across the board and is advanced from a "baseball" perspective. He moves well, has a solid swing, good command of the strike zone, very quick bat, strong arm, plus speed and is an athlete.

The knocks are still the same. A little undersized with not much room in his frame to add bulk. Still learning 2B, though he's looked good (as would be expected based on his baseball acumen).

Looks like a ceiling of above-AVG 2b with a projection of solid-regular ML 2B that doesn't really standout for anything in particular (that said, I wouldn't be surprised to see him reach his ceiling if his quick wrists translate to a little more pop as he progresses). He's far enough away that I see 10 prospects who fit in ahead of him, as of this Fall.

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Top 10 as a hitter most definitely, overall no way.

Agreed. The end game is always what you think the kid will ultimately turn into. Based on what we've seen, I'm not sure you can reasonably project him to be anything more than a below-AVG 2B. Now, if he drastically improves his defense, he could profile as a very good 2B -- I just don't see how you make that jump without treading close to the "leap of faith" realm.

Eh, who knows...

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