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    • Oy, in my opinion, I could care less about 2030 and beyond. Right now Elias needs to be focused on 2025-2027. Does that mean he ignores longterm health, of course not, but you don't make moves this offseason worrying about 2030 and beyond.  If Elias doesn't get a World Series win within the next 3-4 seasons, he ultimately failed because that absolutely should be the goal of every team.  Elias did a great job building a nucleus of talent and rebuilding an organization top to bottom that has enabled this team to make the playoffs two years in a tow and win 90+ games.  Now the expectation is winning 90+ games and winning in the playoffs. 
    • He had TJ surgery in early June.  It is a 12-18 month recovery. Let’s say best case is that he is back pitching in the majors in June.  So he can get what, 18-22 starts in a best case scenario outcome?  So if everything goes perfectly, he would have a chance if he wins 70+% of his starts. Besides the fact that it is not normal to win at that high of a rate, it’s also not likely everything is going to go perfectly for a player who, even before having his first surgery, wasn’t a durable guy.  And this is before we talk about the lack of innings and starts  the last several years and how he could break down as the season gets well into the second half. So yea, if you are setting the O/U at 14.5 starts for Means in 2025, it would be extremely foolish to take the over and if you want to take the over, please let me know because I would love to win some money.
    • The bolded is dependent upon thinking that Homeruns are the total of a player's contribution. It certainly doesn't square with reality, however.
    • Because Elias loves half / cheap measures 
    • Agreed.  I do think Elias wants Burnes back.  And of course we're not the only team interested.  Burnes will push the 'acceptable' years limit in the projections for sure!   Will we front-load for org building?  Back-load for a salary dump later?  A few options for Burnes to max out the market?  Deferrals?  Does any of that matter to Burnes more than what other teams offer in AAV or length? Makes me wonder how serious we were in on 1 or more decent SPs last offbefore a late pivot to Burnes...
    • Thing is if you are John you would want to go to best team possible.    I’m just spitballing anyway. Have to see how it plays out.  
    • What's the downside in a MiL deal, though?
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