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I'm impatient, so I want this thing done now. But it may be in the Orioles best interest to wait, because the economy will lower salaries.

I was thinking about this. If arbitration eligible players (like Markakis) who will be free agents after 2010-2012, is there really an incentive for them to sign now. Wouldnt it be in their interest to wait a year or two to see the economy bounce back and sign an extension then?

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We need to get Markakis signed. It's okay if it is done later, but for this off-season it should be MacPahil's #1 priority.

Why?? Markakis isn't a FA for 3 more years. We only have this offseason to sign Tex, AJ and any other current FA's. Roberts contract situation should be more important than Nick's. I'm not saying it's not important, but it certainly shouldn't be the most important thing of the offseason.

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Why?? Markakis isn't a FA for 3 more years. We only have this offseason to sign Tex, AJ and any other current FA's. Roberts contract situation should be more important than Nick's. I'm not saying it's not important, but it certainly shouldn't be the most important thing of the offseason.

Once he gets closer to being a FA, he may not want to sign with us and get more money with other teams on the FA market.

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I was thinking about this. If arbitration eligible players (like Markakis) who will be free agents after 2010-2012, is there really an incentive for them to sign now. Wouldnt it be in their interest to wait a year or two to see the economy bounce back and sign an extension then?

IMO the answer is yes and no. Yes, he will probably get more money down the road and No, because he is taking a pretty big risk with his health.

If I were Nick I would be taking the money now and provide the financial security for the rest of my, my kids, & my grandkids lives. Then in 6-7 years when I am 30-31, I can sign another extension or I can go somewhere else if I so desire.

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I'm impatient, so I want this thing done now. But it may be in the Orioles best interest to wait, because the economy will lower salaries.
Maybe, but Markakis and his agent will look longingly at the huge contract that Mark Teixeira will get this offseason.

Teixeira and Markakis are pretty comparable. Teixeira's OPS+ at 24 was 131, while Markakis' OPS at 24 last season was 134. If Markakis plays three more years he will be 28 at free agency, just like Teixeira. Both play stellar defense.

Markakis and his agent will be very interested to see what kinds of contracts that are offered to Teixeira this offseason. I doubt that Teixeira's contract offers are going to be affected by the economy too much. Even if the offers are depressed a bit this offseason, Markakis may just decide to wait until the economy improves to see if he get more later. He doesn't seem overly concerned about the security of a long term contract right now.

Markakis gets closer to free agency every day, and he will be a multi-millionaire after the arbitration process in February even if he doesn't sign a long term contract. I don't think time is necessarily on the Orioles side with Markakis.

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I'm impatient, so I want this thing done now. But it may be in the Orioles best interest to wait, because the economy will lower salaries.

Agreed.

This may be a bad move for Kakes. I doubt the first-tier FA's salaries drop, but the secondary FA's contracts - the ones that will effect Markakis' contract - may drop. He will be disappointed with the FA contracts IMO. Hopefully this plays into the O's hands.

That 7/70 contract we've been talking about around here may look VERY fair to Kakes after this off-season.

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Actually, he told Roch that there is no offer on the table.

FWIW here's the link on that: http://masnsports.com/2008/12/separating-b-rob-fact-from-b-r.html

Roberts said it isn't true and wondered where reporters come up with this stuff.

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Apparently, no offer is on the table. But at least Roberts found the whole thing amusing. He even included a :) symbol. But no "LOL."

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Agreed.

This may be a bad move for Kakes. I doubt the first-tier FA's salaries drop, but the secondary FA's contracts - the ones that will effect Markakis' contract - may drop. He will be disappointed with the FA contracts IMO. Hopefully this plays into the O's hands.

That 7/70 contract we've been talking about around here may look VERY fair to Kakes after this off-season.

There's no way this is a bad move for Markakis because he will be a first tier FA. If anything, it puts more pressure on the Orioles to improve the team.

Roberts and Markakis want to see improvement before they sign. Neither want to play on a rebuilding team IMO...

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There's no way this is a bad move for Markakis because he will be a first tier FA. If anything, it puts more pressure on the Orioles to improve the team.

Roberts and Markakis want to see improvement before they sign. Neither want to play on a rebuilding team IMO...

I don't think it's so much a rebuilding team as a mismanaged team that they don't want to play on. Before extending, they need to see light at the end of the tunnel. If "rebuilding" is just a euphemism for "perpetually losing and spinning its wheels," nobody wants to play for a team like that. I think it's more sound, consistent direction and filling of immediate needs in a timely and responsible manner than making a splash in order to compete next year that is at issue. Roberts at least has certainly been around to watch the O's make flashy signings while leaving a crumbling foundation beneath those marquis players and see the disastrous results.

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Maybe, but Markakis and his agent will look longingly at the huge contract that Mark Teixeira will get this offseason.

Teixeira and Markakis are pretty comparable. Teixeira's OPS+ at 24 was 131, while Markakis' OPS at 24 last season was 134. If Markakis plays three more years he will be 28 at free agency, just like Teixeira. Both play stellar defense.

Markakis and his agent will be very interested to see what kinds of contracts that are offered to Teixeira this offseason. I doubt that Teixeira's contract offers are going to be affected by the economy too much. Even if the offers are depressed a bit this offseason, Markakis may just decide to wait until the economy improves to see if he get more later. He doesn't seem overly concerned about the security of a long term contract right now.

Markakis gets closer to free agency every day, and he will be a multi-millionaire after the arbitration process in February even if he doesn't sign a long term contract. I don't think time is necessarily on the Orioles side with Markakis.

I'm not too sure about this. The Angels aren't into giving Tex 10 years and the MFY's aren't anticipating as much revenue from the new stadium as previously thought, because of the economy. Boston would like Tex but doesn't need him desperately. These factors could serve to keep his price lower than expected.
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