Agent Scott Boras takes shot at Braves’ World Series

[Paul in Virginia]

Thought you guys would enjoy this!

 

Agent Scott Boras takes shot at Braves' World Series (larrybrownsports.com)

[Can_of_corn]

Odd thing for him to complain about publicly.

[OriolesMagic83]

Yeah, because it's so easy to make low cost trades at the deadline that pay off.  I seem to remember the O's under Dan making deadline trades that cost a lot and barely paid anything.  Sounds like sour grapes from Boras that Anthopolous (sp?) made some smart trades that rescued the Braves' season w/o $100 million+ contracts or mortgaging the farm. 

[Can_of_corn]

16 minutes ago, OriolesMagic83 said:

Yeah, because it's so easy to make low cost trades at the deadline that pay off.  I seem to remember the O's under Dan making deadline trades that cost a lot and barely paid anything.  Sounds like sour grapes from Boras that Anthopolous (sp?) made some smart trades that rescued the Braves' season w/o $100 million+ contracts or mortgaging the farm. 

The guys they picked up were not exactly lighting the world on fire when acquired.

[Frobby]

I don’t think Boras is denigrating what the Braves did.   He doesn’t like the system where half the teams are sellers at the deadline and the league becomes less competitive.   He wants an environment where all teams are always trying to win as many games as they can.   Not because that’s good for the game or the fans (though arguably it is), but because it’s good for driving up player salaries.

[OriolesMagic83]

1 hour ago, Frobby said:

I don’t think Boras is denigrating what the Braves did.   He doesn’t like the system where half the teams are sellers at the deadline and the league becomes less competitive.   He wants an environment where all teams are always trying to win as many games as they can.   Not because that’s good for the game or the fans (though arguably it is), but because it’s good for driving up player salaries.

Well a league where all teams had close to the same amount to spend on player salaries would be extremely competitive.  If every team had say $120-180 mill/year to spend, I don't think tanking would happen nearly as often.  I'm sure a figure could be found that would be a small increase over the salaries spent on players now, but there wouldn't be some teams w/ $50 mill payrolls and other teams w/ $250 mill payrolls.  More teams trying to compete equals more bidding on free agents equals overall increase in salaries.

[Can_of_corn]

39 minutes ago, OriolesMagic83 said:

Well a league where all teams had close to the same amount to spend on player salaries would be extremely competitive.  If every team had say $120-180 mill/year to spend, I don't think tanking would happen nearly as often.  I'm sure a figure could be found that would be a small increase over the salaries spent on players now, but there wouldn't be some teams w/ $50 mill payrolls and other teams w/ $250 mill payrolls.  More teams trying to compete equals more bidding on free agents equals overall increase in salaries.

Like the NBA?  

[OriolesMagic83]

8 hours ago, Can_of_corn said:

Like the NBA?  

Yes, I think that's where MLB is headed.  I can't see the players ever agreeing to a hard cap, but if only 8-10 teams are going for it every year, and every other team is in various stages of rebuild, it puts a major crimp in salary growth.  I believe the average player salary hasn't increased more than a tiny amount since 2018.  I believe it went down in 2 of those years.  Revenue sharing is the way to go.  Of course the players and owners are so used to trying to get the better of the other side, they ignore growing the sport and making more money for everyone. 

[Can_of_corn]

33 minutes ago, OriolesMagic83 said:

Yes, I think that's where MLB is headed.  I can't see the players ever agreeing to a hard cap, but if only 8-10 teams are going for it every year, and every other team is in various stages of rebuild, it puts a major crimp in salary growth.  I believe the average player salary hasn't increased more than a tiny amount since 2018.  I believe it went down in 2 of those years.  Revenue sharing is the way to go.  Of course the players and owners are so used to trying to get the better of the other side, they ignore growing the sport and making more money for everyone. 

Tanking is a thing in the NBA, as are have and have not teams.  I look at the NBA and I don't see an abundance of parity. 

[OriolesMagic83]

57 minutes ago, Can_of_corn said:

Tanking is a thing in the NBA, as are have and have not teams.  I look at the NBA and I don't see an abundance of parity. 

NBA is different because you can build a championship team built around 2 stars, like the Lakers did 2 years ago w/ Lebron and Anthony Davis.  That tactic just does not work in baseball.  Ask the Angels, who have Trout and Ohtani and haven't even made the playoffs in years.  NBA teams are largely tanking to get a high draft pick and be able to draft those star players.  To get a star player to sign, you already need a star player, unless you are in a major media market like New York and L.A. 

[Can_of_corn]

2 minutes ago, OriolesMagic83 said:

NBA is different because you can build a championship team built around 2 stars, like the Lakers did 2 years ago w/ Lebron and Anthony Davis.  That tactic just does not work in baseball.  Ask the Angels, who have Trout and Ohtani and haven't even made the playoffs in years.  NBA teams are largely tanking to get a high draft pick and be able to draft those star players.  To get a star player to sign, you already need a star player, unless you are in a major media market like New York and L.A. 

Thank goodness we don't have baseball teams in New York and LA.

The NBA also has what I would consider a serious issue of players forcing trades, something I am not eager to see in MLB.

[LA2]

On 11/11/2021 at 12:24 PM, Can_of_corn said:

Odd thing for him to complain about publicly.

Either a very rare slip-up by Boras or possibly an attempt to influence the CBA agenda?

[LA2]

On 11/11/2021 at 11:31 AM, Paul in Virginia said:

Thought you guys would enjoy this!

 

Agent Scott Boras takes shot at Braves' World Series (larrybrownsports.com)

What Boras fails to mention (for obvious reasons) is that several of the "real" best teams did not spend a lot of money.

Cardinals must have annoyed him, too.

[OriolesMagic83]

15 hours ago, LA2 said:

What Boras fails to mention (for obvious reasons) is that several of the "real" best teams did not spend a lot of money.

Cardinals must have annoyed him, too.

The Union/Boras narrative is that small market teams should spend themselves into contention.  The Dodgers and Yankees can support $250 mill payrolls, but the Orioles, Pirates and other smaller market teams can't support a $250 mill payroll.  Some small market teams barely have $250 mill in revenue. 

[Philip]

On 11/12/2021 at 7:13 AM, Frobby said:

I don’t think Boras is denigrating what the Braves did.   He doesn’t like the system where half the teams are sellers at the deadline and the league becomes less competitive.   He wants an environment where all teams are always trying to win as many games as they can.   Not because that’s good for the game or the fans (though arguably it is), but because it’s good for driving up player salaries.

I rarely push back on you, my friend, but I think that is exactly what Boras is doing. He is complaining about a potentially new way of conducting business that would mean less money for him and for his clients, and it worked.
He is incomplete, certainly, not every team can do what the Braves did, and he is Disingenuous, Because every player wants the opportunity to go from a bad team to a good team and will be making more money as a WS-winning FA, but Boras is complaining because he could lose money.

I also read the-brief- linked article about Anthopolous’ “dangerous” comments and I’m considering anew how bad the players association leadership appears to be.

Edited November 14, 2021 by Philip