MLB Lockout Thread

[Can_of_corn]

Just now, SteveA said:

The one thing I don't get is how Heyman was the one trying to sell the owners' narrative.   Isn't he supposed to be joined at the hip with Boras?   Wouldn't he more likely side with the players?

I don't think Boras and Heyman have what would be called an exclusive relationship.

 

[OsFanSinceThe80s]

14 minutes ago, Can_of_corn said:

 

It's going to make the regular season meaningless, but on the other hand the O's climb to making the playoffs becomes shorter. 

I don't like it and keep the current baseball playoff format. 

[Morgan423]

Seriously.  I thought the last expansion they did for the playoffs was approaching the maximum number of teams you'd want in the postseason. 

Now approximately half the teams are going to be in?  Why not just put all the teams in and not bother with the regular season? 

[Can_of_corn]

5 minutes ago, Morgan423 said:

Seriously.  I thought the last expansion they did for the playoffs was approaching the maximum number of teams you'd want in the postseason. 

Now approximately half the teams are going to be in?  Why not just put all the teams in and not bother with the regular season? 

How can Elias build a team if he can't avoid the playoffs?

[Sports Guy]

 

[OsFanSinceThe80s]

19 minutes ago, Morgan423 said:

Seriously.  I thought the last expansion they did for the playoffs was approaching the maximum number of teams you'd want in the postseason. 

Now approximately half the teams are going to be in?  Why not just put all the teams in and not bother with the regular season? 

Even the Orioles can get a participation trophy under this format. 

[Moose Milligan]

41 minutes ago, Morgan423 said:

Seriously.  I thought the last expansion they did for the playoffs was approaching the maximum number of teams you'd want in the postseason. 

Now approximately half the teams are going to be in?  Why not just put all the teams in and not bother with the regular season? 

Yeah. The NHL playoffs are a joke. NBA too, a little bit.

Cheap way to make fans think their team has a shot: expand the playoffs. Count me uninterested if an 85 win Orioles team makes the playoffs.  I don’t need to feign enthusiasm for a slightly better than .500 team. 

[DrinkinWithFermi]

3 minutes ago, Moose Milligan said:

Count me uninterested if an 85 win Orioles team makes the playoffs

Under the league's desired 14 team playoff arrangement, the 82-80 Phillies would have made it in last year. 

Can't wait to see an 81-81 World Series championship team in my lifetime lol.

[Moshagge3]

1 hour ago, SteveA said:

The one thing I don't get is how Heyman was the one trying to sell the owners' narrative.   Isn't he supposed to be joined at the hip with Boras?   Wouldn't he more likely side with the players?

He appears on MLB Network all the time, so he definitely has ties to the other side. 

[DrungoHazewood]

49 minutes ago, Morgan423 said:

Seriously.  I thought the last expansion they did for the playoffs was approaching the maximum number of teams you'd want in the postseason. 

Now approximately half the teams are going to be in?  Why not just put all the teams in and not bother with the regular season? 

Because it's all about money.  Regular season makes a lot of money, playoffs pile more on top.   Now we'll have some teams play, what... close to 100 home games?  Plus they can claim parity even though the Yanks and Dodgers still count 91 wins as an off year.

[Sports Guy]

One thing coming out is that MLB is worried about raising the luxury tax too high that it becomes a bigger issue in terms of large market vs small market.

Im sure the players would tell you that the small market teams should spend more money and that this increase is just fair because of the increase in revenues in the sport.

I think both are right. I think the number should go up but I do think it shouldn’t go as high as the players want.  They said 230m and go up from there.  I think 230m is about the right spot.

[MurphDogg]

16 minutes ago, Sports Guy said:

One thing coming out is that MLB is worried about raising the luxury tax too high that it becomes a bigger issue in terms of large market vs small market.

Im sure the players would tell you that the small market teams should spend more money and that this increase is just fair because of the increase in revenues in the sport.

I think both are right. I think the number should go up but I do think it shouldn’t go as high as the players want.  They said 230m and go up from there.  I think 230m is about the right spot.

Ultimately, there shouldn't be a luxury tax ceiling without a poverty tax floor.

[Bahama O's Fan]

Well, it has come to games canceled. Right now I don't are about blame. I don't care about whose fault it is. Most of them, players and owners, making more than me for a game. Get it sorted out and play bal.

[Moshagge3]

18 minutes ago, MurphDogg said:

Ultimately, there shouldn't be a luxury tax ceiling without a poverty tax floor.

This. People say that concerns about the CBT are only for the wealthiest superstars, but a cap of $230m for the Yankees and Dodgers becomes cover for the Reds to spend $100m and the Rays to spend even less. Total payroll has declined since 2016. If the beneficiaries of CBT were actually spending the money they were getting, it wouldn't be nearly as big a point of contention.

[Sports Guy]

I wonder why the players haven’t introduced a floor?

I mean, if the owners are saying no, we aren’t going to up the CBT as much, why not see if you can make the bottom feeders spend more?  Seems to me that would accomplish what they are trying to do.