Rosenthal: Boras Seeking Teixeira-Varitek Package Deal?

[backwardsk]

Does this thread remind anybody about the Guerero attempt several years back? It was rumored that his agent wanted him packaged in a deal with Palmeiro. Well, look how that turned out.

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Give Tex an 8/184 contract and Varitek a 2/16

I don't even want Tex for 8/184, let alone the both of them.

[clapdiddy]

It's definitely NOT a posting fee.

Want Tek to come on board and mentor Wieters? Tell him his career is over and he can be a catchers coach.

Giving Tek anything more than a few million is GROSSLY OVERPAYING for a backup catcher who is on the downside of his career. Not only that, but he takes up a roster spot...you may say a roster spot of a backup catcher, but I'd rather have a someone who isn't a fartknocker.

Giving Tek anything more than 3 million is just silly...and I think 3 million for him is a bit too much.

Yep...agree with this post 100%. If they want to get the "GA Tech connection" back together again, let them play in a reunion softball game.

We have no need for Varitek. If he wants to come here for a year and make 3 million mentoring Wieters...I have no problem. If he requires a two-year deal, then he can pound sand.

I don't know about everyone else, but he sure looked done to me last year. D-U-N done.

[Dirtyburnie]

This just points more in the direction of Boras wanting Tex to go to Boston and only Boston. The winter meeting is starting to look more and more like it's going to be very depressing.

[eastonguy]

This just points more in the direction of Boras wanting Tex to go to Boston and only Boston. The winter meeting is starting to look more and more like it's going to be very depressing.

But in the end it's up to Tex where he wants to sign.

[JTrea81]

Yep...agree with this post 100%. If they want to get the "GA Tech connection" back together again, let them play in a reunion softball game.

We have no need for Varitek. If he wants to come here for a year and make 3 million mentoring Wieters...I have no problem. If he requires a two-year deal, then he can pound sand.

I don't know about everyone else, but he sure looked done to me last year. D-U-N done.

Varitek supposedly had some medical issues last year that zapped him. Still we aren't talking about having him be a full time catcher.

Think of it as adding 10 million to Tex's contract so its 8/194 and giving Varitek a 2/6 deal then. Varitek would not be a horrible backup catcher. He'd be basically an extra pitching coach behind the plate.

The guy has caught 4 no hitters, the most in MLB history and I think he's a huge reason for the success of the Boston pitching staff. He would help mentor Wieters, and our younger pitchers.

I'm in favor of giving Tex 8/200 to land him if need be, so this would be something similar and it gets you a solid backup catcher for the next 2 years.

[24fps]

Hmmm..let's see:

Some rival agents, however, believe that Boras might be offering Varitek in a "package deal" with the catcher's friend and fellow Georgia Tech alum, free-agent first baseman Mark Teixeira.

Rival agents, huh? It's a pity Ken didn't take the next step and ask these agents - no doubt truthful, honorable citizens all - for the specifics of this package deal. I guess it must have been a deadline thing. Anyway, as we all know, Mark Teixeira needs all the help he can get to realize the fair payday he's toiled so hard to achieve.

Evidently, by lending his support to Mark's plight, Jason Varitek has made a sacrifice that goes way beyond noble and that has caused my respect for him to skyrocket. I just wish I knew how much we all owed him so I could properly express my gratitude.

[TyCobb]

I think the flak people were giving him was that we should sign Tek to a 2/16 deal just to get Tex.

That is and was a very bad idea.

Still don't think this is true at all. Tex would have to be an idiot to allow his agent to do this. It only helps Varitek. Hurts Tex.

[wickedwitch]

Varitek supposedly had some medical issues last year that zapped him.

I'm in favor of giving Tex 8/200 to land him if need be, so this would be something similar and it gets you a solid backup catcher for the next 2 years.

What medical issues? Could you please provide a link? And he was nearly as bad in 2006. Not to mention the fact that he's 37.

There's nothing solid about him. Ramon would play better.

[twoBshorty]

Varitek supposedly had some medical issues last year that zapped him. Still we aren't talking about having him be a full time catcher.

Think of it as adding 10 million to Tex's contract so its 8/194 and giving Varitek a 2/6 deal then. Varitek would not be a horrible backup catcher. He'd be basically an extra pitching coach behind the plate.

The guy has caught 4 no hitters, the most in MLB history and I think he's a huge reason for the success of the Boston pitching staff. He would help mentor Wieters, and our younger pitchers.

I'm in favor of giving Tex 8/200 to land him if need be, so this would be something similar and it gets you a solid backup catcher for the next 2 years.

Varitek was going through a divorce. I don't know how much that has to do with his dropoff and how much of it is that 37-year-old catchers tend to predictably fall off cliffs. Probably much more so the latter.

I don't think signing him for $10 million total is going to cut it. If that's what he wanted, he would have accepted Boston's arb offer. 2/6 is a pipe dream.

[JTrea81]

Varitek was going through a divorce. I don't know how much that has to do with his dropoff and how much of it is that 37-year-old catchers tend to predictably fall off cliffs. Probably much more so the latter.

I don't think signing him for $10 million total is going to cut it. If that's what he wanted, he would have accepted Boston's arb offer. 2/6 is a pipe dream.

You'd sign him for 2/16 and then just consider 10 million of that going to the Tex signing as a posting fee, so it would be like you'd signed him for 2/6...

[twoBshorty]

You'd sign him for 2/16 and then just consider 10 million of that going to the Tex signing as a posting fee, so it would be like you'd signed him for 2/6...

Ahhh. I understand now. I suppose that's one way to look at it.

[Pruke]

How embarrassing for Varitek.

I hope this is completely wrong, but if it's right, I have a hard time thinking someone who has any semblance of self respect and ego would want to be coat tailed on top of Tex for the purpose of getting one more contract.

Then again, I continue to play the FLA lotto every week, so apparently there is something to this thing called money.

Sadly enough, I wonder if this is more driven by Boras seeking a chunk of Varitek's pay AND Tex's contract, rather than Varitek himself (although he obviously benefits).

Nonetheless, just say no to Varitek.

[Malike]

I'm not one to defend Boras, I'm certainly not of a fan of his alleged tactics but I found this quote from Lowe interesting.

Lowe also said suspicions that Boras orchestrates where a player signs, even to facilitate the signing of another player elsewhere, is a fantasy.

"This misperception that he puts you in places whether you want to be there or not, that doesn't happen," Lowe said. "At the end of the day, he'll tell you, 'Here are the offers, but the final say is yours -- you decide.' What you want from the agent is to get you the offers and give you a choice, but it's the player's choice."

Full article is Here

[mikezpen]

Doesn't matter what kind of deal Boras is demanding. Texiera isn't coming here in a million years anyway.