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I don’t know if this is the correct place to share this, so if not feel free to move it or I can delete it. I saw Tork’s HR a couple days ago and then saw this tweet: I have felt that Tea

Moose Milligan
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That's fine.  Home run derby posing as an MLB game is getting old.

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Of course nobody cared about the wall until it robbed the yankees of a home run.

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Mancini is expected to have 13 homers, he has 6. It’s by far the largest gap in baseball. All of this to say: if they come to the park one morning and the wall has been ripped down, I think we know the prime suspect 

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2 hours ago, wildcard said:

Trey is showing a lot of frustration in having long fly balls not be homers.   It not a good look for him.  He has the power to reach the O's bullpen.  He has the power to reach right center.     Should his frustration really be about him not making the adjustment to hit to center and right center?

Baseball is a frustrating sport. I totally understand Trey being upset that these balls aren’t leaving lol. Especially the ones that are gone in 29/30.

Also, he’s smashing the ball and even if they aren’t leaving that’s still not something he should be focused on adjusting. 

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5 hours ago, Orioles4Life21 said:

Baseball is a frustrating sport. I totally understand Trey being upset that these balls aren’t leaving lol. Especially the ones that are gone in 29/30.

Also, he’s smashing the ball and even if they aren’t leaving that’s still not something he should be focused on adjusting. 

Mancini has a .777 OPS at home, a .783 on the road (prior to today).  Three homers at home.  Three homers on the road.  He has the 2nd-best OPS+ of his career.  He'll be fine.

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9 hours ago, wildcard said:

Trey is showing a lot of frustration in having long fly balls not be homers.   It not a good look for him.  He has the power to reach the O's bullpen.  He has the power to reach right center.     Should his frustration really be about him not making the adjustment to hit to center and right center?

It is not simple to hit baseballs thrown at 90+ mph and control the exact direction they go.   Truth is, Mancini has all-fields power and usually sprays them around because he hits the ball where it’s pitched.  It so happens that this year several  balls he’s hit have gone to the area where they moved the wall back.   I don’t blame him for being frustrated but it would be better if he didn’t show it.  

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3 hours ago, Frobby said:

It is not simple to hit baseballs thrown at 90+ mph and control the exact direction they go.   Truth is, Mancini has all-fields power and usually sprays them around because he hits the ball where it’s pitched.  It so happens that this year several  balls he’s hit have gone to the area where they moved the wall back.   I don’t blame him for being frustrated but it would be better if he didn’t show it.  

It was stated that Mancini would have 20 HR if he played all his games at Cinncinnati.  Unfortunately I don't think Cinncinnati is looking for a DH or probably to trade for anyone. 

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3 hours ago, Can_of_corn said:

Also, the Reds do.play games on the road.

Yeah obviously.  Just showing how many HR Mancini could have in a smaller stadium.  I guess Mancini is a guy w/ "warning track" power that hits a lot of fly balls that barely get over the wall or are caught just short of the wall. 

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You'd be pissed, too, if balls that would have gone over the wall in years prior are coming up short now.  That's not just a decrease in his stats, that's literal money off the table for him.

For argument's sake (and I'm exaggerating a bit here, but bear with me here) say the new LF configuration takes away 15 homes from Trey and he winds up with 15 total this year.  In years prior, he'd have had 30 homers, this year he has 15.

When he goes to negotiate a new salary with the Orioles or with another team, he can't say he's a 30 homer guy and demand to be paid like one.  And no one's going to care that the new LF configuration took away a lot of homers from him.  Too bad.  

Yeah, I'd be pissed about it, too.

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58 minutes ago, Moose Milligan said:

You'd be pissed, too, if balls that would have gone over the wall in years prior are coming up short now.  That's not just a decrease in his stats, that's literal money off the table for him.

For argument's sake (and I'm exaggerating a bit here, but bear with me here) say the new LF configuration takes away 15 homes from Trey and he winds up with 15 total this year.  In years prior, he'd have had 30 homers, this year he has 15.

When he goes to negotiate a new salary with the Orioles or with another team, he can't say he's a 30 homer guy and demand to be paid like one.  And no one's going to care that the new LF configuration took away a lot of homers from him.  Too bad.  

Yeah, I'd be pissed about it, too.

If only teams has access to the same sort of data us fans have and could see how the wall is affecting his numbers.

 

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9 hours ago, OriolesMagic83 said:

It was stated that Mancini would have 20 HR if he played all his games at Cinncinnati.  Unfortunately I don't think Cinncinnati is looking for a DH or probably to trade for anyone. 

If he played at Dean Field (180-200-190) near where I grew up he'd have 66 homers.

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1 hour ago, Moose Milligan said:

You'd be pissed, too, if balls that would have gone over the wall in years prior are coming up short now.  That's not just a decrease in his stats, that's literal money off the table for him.

For argument's sake (and I'm exaggerating a bit here, but bear with me here) say the new LF configuration takes away 15 homes from Trey and he winds up with 15 total this year.  In years prior, he'd have had 30 homers, this year he has 15.

When he goes to negotiate a new salary with the Orioles or with another team, he can't say he's a 30 homer guy and demand to be paid like one.  And no one's going to care that the new LF configuration took away a lot of homers from him.  Too bad.  

Yeah, I'd be pissed about it, too.

It's not 1978.  Trey and his agent can pull out the spray charts and the rest of the data and show a good estimate of the number of homers he'd have hit in any other park in the world.  He can show his context-adjusted production.  If any MLB team is offering contracts on the basis of non-park-adjusted HR totals I wouldn't want to play for them.

This is kind of the opposite of saying everyone who hits in Colorado gets a contract 50% bigger.  Clearly that doesn't happen.

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