What do you want to see with picks 33, 42, 67

[Can_of_corn]

2 minutes ago, RZNJ said:

Slight variation.  I would not take too many guys who were college relievers.   I'd take starting pitchers who didn't perform but had pretty good stuff and convert them to relievers.

I've been saying for years that I would be targeting college pitchers in rounds 4-6 with the idea of making relievers out of them.

[RZNJ]

2 minutes ago, Can_of_corn said:

I've been saying for years that I would be targeting college pitchers in rounds 4-6 with the idea of making relievers out of them.

I know.  I think the reasoning here originally was to take underslots,  college seniors, in rounds 6-10 so you can use that money saved in rounds 1-5.   You can receive full credit.

[Sports Guy]

28 minutes ago, Can_of_corn said:

I've been saying for years that I would be targeting college pitchers in rounds 4-6 with the idea of making relievers out of them.

I don’t get why we don’t see more of this. These guys will cost you nothing. Put all your money into your top 3 or 4 picks And draft a bunch of guys with no leverage who will be happy to sign for 50-200k.  
 

Treat the draft like you do Intl signings.  A few signings and then a bunch of 5 and 6 figure guys.

[Can_of_corn]

1 minute ago, Sports Guy said:

I don’t get why we don’t see more of this. These guys will cost you nothing. Put all your money into your top 3 or 4 picks And draft a bunch of guys with no leverage who will be happy to sign for 50-200k.  
 

Treat the draft like you do Intl signings.  A few signings and then a bunch of 5 and 6 figure guys.

I'm at a loss.

There has to be some reason teams don't do it but I can't figure out why they don't.

Not like the hit rate is good in those rounds anyway.

If you get lucky you get a bullpen piece a year out of it.

[Sports Guy]

1 minute ago, Can_of_corn said:

I'm at a loss.

There has to be some reason teams don't do it but I can't figure out why they don't.

Not like the hit rate is good in those rounds anyway.

If you get lucky you get a bullpen piece a year out of it.

Yep..not only that, they can move fast. 
 

There are probably around 10 roster spots where you should be paying next to no money for on the ML Roster and getting guys to help fill those types of spots in those later rounds should be the goal.

[coe76]

If Mazur from Iowa is still there at 42 they should  grab him.  If he is still there at 67 it is a no brainer.  WHIP under 1, Big Ten pitcher of the year.  9.4K/9. Apparently still has room to fill out physically.  O’s need pitching since Elias has focused so much on position players in previous drafts.

[pdiddy]

Where does Ben Joyce realistically go? MLB has him at 112 but I’m guessing someone takes an earlier flyer.

[Sports Guy]

38 minutes ago, pdiddy said:

Where does Ben Joyce realistically go? MLB has him at 112 but I’m guessing someone takes an earlier flyer.

I saw someone thinking he could go within the first 60 or so picks because some team falls in love with 105.

But that is too high for him.  I would be happy to get him with the third round pick.(depending on what else is there of course)

[StillanOfan]

My choices:

#33 - Owen Murphy RHP HS - (Overslot likely) or Peyton Graham SS - Oklahoma or Jacob Melton OF Oregon St

#42 - College Pitcher that may fall :  Connor Prielipp (unlikely) or Gabriel Hughes or Carson Whisenhunt

#67 - College Pitcher -  Does Landon Sims fall this far?  Trystan Vierling RHP Gonzaga or Ben Joyce RHP Tennessee

#81 - Jake Madden RHP - NW Florida State JC or Jack O’Connor RHP HS

 

The plan appears to have been to load up on collegiate position players that all have above average OPS.  Find out who rises to the top and likely use some of the excess to acquire pitching prospects down the road.  I hope Elias and Sig pivot to pitching this draft, but I am perfectly fine with the strategy to overstock the hitting prospects as long as we are going to spend or trade for quality pitching.

 

 

[NelsonCruuuuuz]

9 hours ago, RVAOsFan said:

I think everyone is tired of discussing 1:1, that horse has been beaten.

What do you want to see the O’s do with the other picks they have tomorrow night? Any strategy or specific players?

I think they should follow a BPA available strategy but when it is close I would like to see us draft pitchers, I think the system could use a couple college pitchers who move fast.

If he drops to 33 I would love to grab Carson Whisenhunt from ECU. He was suspended this year for PED’s but I am ready to over look that.  He is a lefty who throws 95, might have the best change up in the draft and throws a nasty curve ball. 
 

What do you want to see?

 

Pitching, pitching, more pitching! 

[panick]

5 hours ago, Sports Guy said:

I don’t get why we don’t see more of this. These guys will cost you nothing. Put all your money into your top 3 or 4 picks And draft a bunch of guys with no leverage who will be happy to sign for 50-200k.  
 

Treat the draft like you do Intl signings.  A few signings and then a bunch of 5 and 6 figure guys.

Elias has already done this in two drafts. 

The first time, he drafted two relievers with top ten picks(one from Oregon and the other from North Dakota), gave them each $10,000 and I guess must have told them to have a nice life.

The second time, he drafted three players in the top ten, gave two of them $10,000 and the other $5,000.

In both instances, he was getting more money available for overslots.

I've often wondered what Elias told these players. On the one hand, it would be embarrassing for them to be told to take the money and run, but they likely weren't expecting to be drafted and those amounts of money would be the easiest money they ever made.

[Babkins]

I’ll be curious to see if Bobby Zmarzlak, the UMD outfielder who was an unsigned late-round high school pick for us in 2019, might draw Elias’s interest again. Zmarzlak is a local (for me—CT) kid whom many regarded as a potential third-round talent, if memory serves. Just finished his junior year at Maryland, so I assume he is draft-eligible. Numbers look OK but not spectacular for a college hitter: .291/.403/.526 in 62 games with 15 home runs and a 12 percent walk rate. Strikes out in about a third of his plate appearances. Anybody who follows Terps baseball have an eye on him over the past couple of years?

[Chaka Garcia]

Any predictions for these slots? Maybe top guys drop and a few teams make dumb picks like Kumar.

[Just Regular]

1 minute ago, Chaka Garcia said:

Any predictions for these slots? Maybe top guys drop and a few teams make dumb picks like Kumar.

Certainly we've come to the couple hours of hoping for as many Frank Mozzicato randoms as the Clubs can think up.

And of course all of them they have more data than Kiley, Callis, etc.     But I'll nonetheless have a little extra energy if pick 33 is somebody who was like Kiley's 19th best available.

[Just Regular]

Here is past where my insights on any individual taps out, but for those of you more into it....what's the Lance McCullers dream scenario at 33 from here?