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1 hour ago, Can_of_corn said:

If you have pitchers who can miss bats you won't see those 10 pitch at bats.

Or missing the good part of the bat anyway. 

It was always an interesting stat to me that Jim Palmer was 5.04 K/9 in his career and was certainly not a Nolan Ryan, Randy Johnson, Verlander etc type but was even less of a strikeout guy than say Jordan Lyles 6.9 K/9 .. Palmer was a master at throwing pitches where the individual hitter was going to be hard pressed to do much with them .. as were guys like Don Drysdale, Tom Glavine, etc

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1 minute ago, Bahama O's Fan said:

Is this series with Toronto our last chance? Blow this series and we're done? Win the series and we still have a chance?

Wouldn't say LAST (unless we get swept). At minimum we need to take 2/3 and hope one of these WC teams falter down the stretch. Basically just keep winning.

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8 hours ago, Frobby said:

I don’t think we need to sweep the Jays. We need to play really good baseball for three weeks against a very tough schedule.   

As to Manoah, we’ve beaten the Blue Jays twice in the four times he’s faced us this year.  He’s good but not invincible.  
 

I don't know, I think 2 games back with 17 games to go is a lot more plausible than 4 games back with 17 games to go.  If we don't go at least 5-1 against the Jays it's going to be a long shot to make the playoffs unless we go like 12-2 the rest of the way.

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48 minutes ago, Hallas said:

I don't know, I think 2 games back with 17 games to go is a lot more plausible than 4 games back with 17 games to go.  If we don't go at least 5-1 against the Jays it's going to be a long shot to make the playoffs unless we go like 12-2 the rest of the way.

I agree, we must go at least 5-1 against the Jays. So we need to win tonight & tomorrow before we face Manoah on Sunday (plus, we don't do well on Sundays anyway).

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2 hours ago, Hallas said:

I don't know, I think 2 games back with 17 games to go is a lot more plausible than 4 games back with 17 games to go.  If we don't go at least 5-1 against the Jays it's going to be a long shot to make the playoffs unless we go like 12-2 the rest of the way.

Sure, it would make the job easier.  I just try not to get too caught up in one series or one game. We probably have to go at least 12-8 from here, maybe 14-6. That gets us to 89-91 wins.  

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I know the offense is not great but even when we had awful teams and much worse lineups and we would have a stretch where the offense would get hot a week and put together 5-7 game streak scoring 5 runs a game.  We have had a game here and there where offense breaks out but then next game be right back to struggling,  The pitching has had a few stretches where they carried us.  I keep thinking at some point the offense will have a stretch they carry us but we are running out of games.  Even when we do score some runs it seems like we get most the runs late in the game after the offense sleep walks through first 5-6 innings.  

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6 minutes ago, bpilktree said:

I know the offense is not great but even when we had awful teams and much worse lineups and we would have a stretch where the offense would get hot a week and put together 5-7 game streak scoring 5 runs a game.  We have had a game here and there where offense breaks out but then next game be right back to struggling,  The pitching has had a few stretches where they carried us.  I keep thinking at some point the offense will have a stretch they carry us but we are running out of games.  Even when we do score some runs it seems like we get most the runs late in the game after the offense sleep walks through first 5-6 innings.  

I thought tonight was a lot like last weekend. Big swings. 

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