It Ain't Over

[O's84]

I didn't see the game, but it looks like the offense didn't show up again.  The Lyles 3 run HR hurt too of course, but the offense has got to do a better job, especially against suspect pitchers.

[dtk9119]

Said it in the game thread -- this was a game we had to have, with the next 2 pitchers going for TOR. The fact that TOR had just played 5 games in 4 days (really 8 in 7) and was pitching a BP game w/ overworked pitchers and we couldn't capitalize says a lot of how bad this offense is right now. And when they bring in Kucuchi, a pitcher that we have LIT UP this year and we get the Mullins 3B, Adley homer, still no one out and DO NOTHING the rest of the inning?? Inexcusable.

Good that the Rays lost, but we now really need to somehow win these next 2 games even to just hope to stay close to TB.

[eddie83]

6 minutes ago, dtk9119 said:

Said it in the game thread -- this was a game we had to have, with the next 2 pitchers going for TOR. The fact that TOR had just played 5 games in 4 days (really 8 in 7) and was pitching a BP game w/ overworked pitchers and we couldn't capitalize says a lot of how bad this offense is right now. And when they bring in Kucuchi, a pitcher that we have LIT UP this year and we get the Mullins 3B, Adley homer, still no one out and DO NOTHING the rest of the inning?? Inexcusable.

Good that the Rays lost, but we now really need to somehow win these next 2 games even to just hope to stay close to TB.

At this point we are going to need help. Need TB to collapse basically, or close to it.  

[tntoriole]

It was over in my heart when we got swept in the Monday doubleheader .. the Jays are just playing better than we are.. maybe a sweep will convince some people but some will want mathematical elimination before acknowledging any such thing lol .  It is all good though .. we are on the upsurge and it is maybe a good thing for Adley and Gunnar to feel what losing is like .. often the next year it provides an incentive. 

[hutchead]

8 minutes ago, eddie83 said:

At this point we are going to need help. Need TB to collapse basically, or close to it.  

Don't need help yet. Win out and we overtake the Blue Jays.

[Three Run Homer]

We lost tonight for the same reason we are likely to miss the playoffs--there are too many guys on this team who are not good enough to play on a contender.  Jordan Lyles is not good enough.  Joey Kreihbel is not good enough.  Rougned Odor is not good enough.  Ryan Mountcastle--well, I wouldn't give up on him yet but he is not good enough yet to be a MOO hitter on a playoff team.   

But we do have some pieces that are plenty good enough.  Adley Rutschman, Gunnar Henderson, Felix Bautista, Dean Kremer, Tyler Wells and Cedric Mullins are all good enough to play key roles on a championship team.    Austin Voth and Kyle Bradish might be good enough and deserve to stick around.  More pieces are in the minors waiting for their chance--Westburg, Ortiz, Gray Rod are ready now, and Norby and Cowser will arrive next season.   John Means will provide a lift.

This offseason will be about letting go of the placeholders, making room for the young talent and finding a couple of top notch veterans to put the team over the top.  We are in much better shape than we thought we'd be at the start of this season, that's for sure.   

[tntoriole]

9 minutes ago, Three Run Homer said:

We lost tonight for the same reason we are likely to miss the playoffs--there are too many guys on this team who are not good enough to play on a contender.  Jordan Lyles is not good enough.  Joey Kreihbel is not good enough.  Rougned Odor is not good enough.  Ryan Mountcastle--well, I wouldn't give up on him yet but he is not good enough yet to be a MOO hitter on a playoff team.   

But we do have some pieces that are plenty good enough.  Adley Rutschman, Gunnar Henderson, Felix Bautista, Dean Kremer, Tyler Wells and Cedric Mullins are all good enough to play key roles on a championship team.    Austin Voth and Kyle Bradish might be good enough and deserve to stick around.  More pieces are in the minors waiting for their chance--Westburg, Ortiz, Gray Rod are ready now, and Norby and Cowser will arrive next season.   John Means will provide a lift.

This offseason will be about letting go of the placeholders, making room for the young talent and finding a couple of top notch veterans to put the team over the top.  We are in much better shape than we thought we'd be at the start of this season, that's for sure.   

And young Jackson will start pounding on that door before we know it. 

[sportsfan8703]

We can’t fall apart. We definitely need to finish 82-80. 87-75 would be awesome as well, just to say we had the biggest single season turnaround in MLB history. 
 

7-12 gets us to 82-80

12-7 gets us to 87-75  

Gotta finish strong.  We need the crowd back at the games.  That matters so much.

 

[Going Underground]

26 minutes ago, sportsfan8703 said:

We can’t fall apart. We definitely need to finish 82-80. 87-75 would be awesome as well, just to say we had the biggest single season turnaround in MLB history. 
 

7-12 gets us to 82-80

12-7 gets us to 87-75  

Gotta finish strong.  We need the crowd back at the games.  That matters so much.

 

Don't think we will ever draw like we used to even when winning. Baltimore is a football town. The flagship station they are on talks about football 70% of the time over baseball. The Guardians are in a pennant race and will probably draw around 1 5 to 1.6 m this year. I see Baltimore also drawing like this ,perhaps a little higher near 2 m if they make a long playoff run one year. 

Edited September 17, 2022 by Going Underground

[Going Underground]

1 minute ago, Going Underground said:

Don't think we will ever draw like we used to even when winning. Baltimore is a football town. The flagship station they are on talks about football 70% of the time over baseball. The Indians are in a pennant race and will probably draw around 1 5 to 1.6 m this year. I see Baltimore also drawing like this ,perhaps a little higher near 2 m if they make a long playoff run one year. 

Actually looking at the Guardians attendance, they will be lucky to draw 1.5 million.

[eddie83]

23 minutes ago, Going Underground said:

Don't think we will ever draw like we used to even when winning. Baltimore is a football town. The flagship station they are on talks about football 70% of the time over baseball. The Guardians are in a pennant race and will probably draw around 1 5 to 1.6 m this year. I see Baltimore also drawing like this ,perhaps a little higher near 2 m if they make a long playoff run one year. 

How much sports talk does WBAL have? 
Maybe some stuff on weekend. 

[Bahama O's Fan]

I think it's over, I mean not mathematically, but realistically 

[maybenxtyr]

17 minutes ago, Bahama O's Fan said:

I think it's over, I mean not mathematically, but realistically 

It's been a heck of a season, but they're definitely behind Tampa and Toronto as far as talent translating to the field. 

 

It's going to be an interesting winter for Elias. Having Gunnar and Adley does give him a good headstart though.

[Bahama O's Fan]

Just now, maybenxtyr said:

It's been a heck of a season, but they're definitely behind Tampa and Toronto as far as talent translating to the field. 

 

It's going to be an interesting winter for Elias. Having Gunnar and Adley does give him a good headstart though.

Definitely. I feel as though we need one big bat and one top starting pitcher.

[InsideCoroner]

I’m just glad we didn’t “go for it” this year, like so many people on the OH Facebook page wanted. It would have been too soon, even with extra rented bats or arms we probably couldn’t beat the Yanks or Dodgers. The guys we need to step up late in the season didn’t, but this team exceeded all expectations, it’s been a great year, and I really look forward to 2023. It’s definitely the most optimistic I’ve been as an Orioles fan in a long time.