MLB/MLBPA new version of WAR ranks Oakland C Sean Murphy #1 pre-Arb player

[Frobby]

Apparently  MLB and the MLBPA think rWAR and fWAR are pretty far off base.

”A memo distributed to teams Thursday outlined the plan to enrich standout players in the early parts of their careers who still make around the major league minimum, which this season is $700,000. The memo, obtained by ESPN, also included the totals for the new version of WAR created by Major League Baseball and the MLB Players Association to reward players.”

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“Tops in the group right now is [Oakland catcher Sean] Murphy, the 27-year-old catcher who is hitting .252/.333/.442 this season. While his offensive numbers pale compared to some of his peers, Murphy gains significant value from his fielding numbers and the positional adjustment that rewards more difficult defensive positions, such as catcher and shortstop.

“The rest of the top 10 include: Houston designated hitter Yordan Alvarez, Cleveland second baseman Andres Gimenez, Tampa Bay left-hander Shane McClanahan, Seattle outfielder Julio Rodriguez, St. Louis shortstop Tommy Edman, Cease, Los Angeles Dodgers starter Tony Gonsolin, Gallen and Toronto catcher Alejandro Kirk.

“Among the top 25 are nine starting pitchers, seven catchers, four infielders, four outfielders and one DH.”

https://www.espn.com/mlb/story/_/id/34552636/baseball-new-pre-arbitration-bonus-program-includes-money-based-new-version-war-according-memo

Sesn Murphy, really?   He’s been worth 3.3 rWAR, 4.6 fWAR.   Here’s rWAR and fWAR for the listed players:

Murhpy 3.3, 4.6

Alvarez 4.8, 4.7

Gimenez 6.0, 5.1

McClanahan 3.9, 3.8

Rodriguez 5.0, 4.2

Edman 6.1, 5.0

Cease 6.0, 3.8

Gonsolin 4.6, 2.6

Gallen 4.6, 3.6

Kirk 4.0, 3.9

Notably missing: Adley Rutschman (4.5, 4.0).   Of course, he spotted these players 40 games.  But he outranks McClanahan and Kirk in both rWAR and fWAR.

It looks to me like the MLB/MLBPA version follows fWAR more closely for position players, rWAR more closely for pitchers.   I wonder whether the new version will become public so we can see how other players are ranked.   

 

 

 

[CharmCityHokie]

8 hours ago, Frobby said:

Apparently  MLB and the MLBPA think rWAR and fWAR are pretty far off base.

”A memo distributed to teams Thursday outlined the plan to enrich standout players in the early parts of their careers who still make around the major league minimum, which this season is $700,000. The memo, obtained by ESPN, also included the totals for the new version of WAR created by Major League Baseball and the MLB Players Association to reward players.”

* * *
“Tops in the group right now is [Oakland catcher Sean] Murphy, the 27-year-old catcher who is hitting .252/.333/.442 this season. While his offensive numbers pale compared to some of his peers, Murphy gains significant value from his fielding numbers and the positional adjustment that rewards more difficult defensive positions, such as catcher and shortstop.

“The rest of the top 10 include: Houston designated hitter Yordan Alvarez, Cleveland second baseman Andres Gimenez, Tampa Bay left-hander Shane McClanahan, Seattle outfielder Julio Rodriguez, St. Louis shortstop Tommy Edman, Cease, Los Angeles Dodgers starter Tony Gonsolin, Gallen and Toronto catcher Alejandro Kirk.

“Among the top 25 are nine starting pitchers, seven catchers, four infielders, four outfielders and one DH.”

https://www.espn.com/mlb/story/_/id/34552636/baseball-new-pre-arbitration-bonus-program-includes-money-based-new-version-war-according-memo

Sesn Murphy, really?   He’s been worth 3.3 rWAR, 4.6 fWAR.   Here’s rWAR and fWAR for the listed players:

Murhpy 3.3, 4.6

Alvarez 4.8, 4.7

Gimenez 6.0, 5.1

McClanahan 3.9, 3.8

Rodriguez 5.0, 4.2

Edman 6.1, 5.0

Cease 6.0, 3.8

Gonsolin 4.6, 2.6

Gallen 4.6, 3.6

Kirk 4.0, 3.9

Notably missing: Adley Rutschman (4.5, 4.0).   Of course, he spotted these players 40 games.  But he outranks McClanahan and Kirk in both rWAR and fWAR.

It looks to me like the MLB/MLBPA version follows fWAR more closely for position players, rWAR more closely for pitchers.   I wonder whether the new version will become public so we can see how other players are ranked.   

 

 

 

Definitely curious to see what their formula and weights are, as I am sure some of the players affected by this are as well.

Maybe there is a factor in the equation of "Your owner is cheap and is purposefully pushing away fans from MLB so we're going to make him pay by giving you a bigger salary".