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Potential trade for Corbin Burnes or Brandon Woodruff


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8 hours ago, oriolediehard said:

Teams like the Yankees or the Dodgers will sign him in a heartbeat.

 

8 hours ago, Owen21 said:

"YES", there is a "remote spring training" chance the Yanks would.

Any other fanbase would mention Cohen and the Mets.  Only the O's fan base would still be obsessed with the idea the Yankees will sign everyone.

The Yankees mostly respect the cap, are they going to have room?  Maybe?  They've got a lot of money tied up in long term deals.

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11 minutes ago, spleen1015 said:

Dude wasn't whining about money. Yeah, he got a little whiny talking about Valentine's Day, but he never whined about money. His problem was they said he was the reason why they didn't make the postseason last year. He has a right to be hurt by that BS.

Awww poor thing.  My workplace gives me 10 mil they can call me whatever name they wish lol. 

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13 hours ago, tntoriole said:

I am just fed up with whiny athletes getting a payday of over 10 million and still just about as negative as they can be . The lot of them are basically overly sensitive narcissists.  If he didn’t want to go to arbitration then reduce your demands.  Entitled all the time this generation. 
And to talk about his “worth and value?” Hey pal, you throw a baseball for millions .. try being a cop or a nurse or a soldier .. sheesh 

I thought Burnes came across as perfectly calm and professional in this interview. The players (Burnes includes) make a fraction of what the owners make for doing even less. Everyone, regardless of what profession they're in, should want to be paid what they're worth. It has absolutely nothing to do with entitlement.  Entitlement would be a below average pitcher who didn't put in the time asking for a big salary bump. Burnes worked his a$$ off and finished 7th in the NL Cy Young voting last season (and won it in 2021). 

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3 minutes ago, HakunaSakata said:

I thought Burnes came across as perfectly calm and professional in this interview. The players (Burnes includes) make a fraction of what the owners make for doing even less. Everyone, regardless of what profession they're in, should want to be paid what they're worth. It has absolutely nothing to do with entitlement.  Entitlement would be a below average pitcher who didn't put in the time asking for a big salary bump. Burnes worked his a$$ off and finished 7th in the NL Cy Young voting last season (and won it in 2021). 

Who defines what they are worth?  In this case, the agreed upon method is the arbitrator.  By the rules of the industry, he is getting paid what he's worth.  If he has an issue, he should take it up with his union rep.  

At the end of the day, him talking to the media won't matter at all for his FA market.  If a team has money and want him, they'll put forth an offer he'll accept. 

Talking to the media has a better chance of influencing the next CBA than anything else.  And even that's slim.

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3 minutes ago, btdart20 said:

At the end of the day, him talking to the media won't matter at all for his FA market.  If a team has money and want him, they'll put forth an offer he'll accept. 

Talking to the media has a better chance of influencing the next CBA than anything else.  And even that's slim.

What if he isn't trying to influence anything and was just asked a question to which he gave an honest answer? 

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4 minutes ago, btdart20 said:

Who defines what they are worth?  In this case, the agreed upon method is the arbitrator.  By the rules of the industry, he is getting paid what he's worth.  If he has an issue, he should take it up with his union rep.  

At the end of the day, him talking to the media won't matter at all for his FA market.  If a team has money and want him, they'll put forth an offer he'll accept. 

Talking to the media has a better chance of influencing the next CBA than anything else.  And even that's slim.

Did you read the interview.  He said he was upset that they kind of blamed him for not making the playoffs.  He wasn’t complaining about the money.  

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3 minutes ago, btdart20 said:

Who defines what they are worth?  In this case, the agreed upon method is the arbitrator.  By the rules of the industry, he is getting paid what he's worth.  If he has an issue, he should take it up with his union rep.  

At the end of the day, him talking to the media won't matter at all for his FA market.  If a team has money and want him, they'll put forth an offer he'll accept. 

Talking to the media has a better chance of influencing the next CBA than anything else.  And even that's slim.

My sense is that it was probably more about the mud slinging (during the arbitration process) and less about the money. I think that's why it's usually in a team's best interest to find a middle ground before it gets to that point, particularly for their star players. At the same time, if the Brewer's have no intention of resigning Burnes then it doesn't really matter. And it wasn't like he held a press conference. He just answered the questions that were asked of him and stayed pretty even keeled the whole time. 

Bigger picture, if the Brewer's fall out of contention this season or next season I'd say it's very likely they trade him. 

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12 minutes ago, RZNJ said:

Did you read the interview.  He said he was upset that they kind of blamed him for not making the playoffs.  He wasn’t complaining about the money.  

I’m sure that was tough to hear.  The Brewers missed the playoffs by one game, and it’s true Burnes didn’t pitch his best down the stretch, though I’d hardly single him out as the reason the Brewers fell short.  

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6 minutes ago, Frobby said:

I’m sure that was tough to hear.  The Brewers missed the playoffs by one game, and it’s true Burnes didn’t pitch his best down the stretch, though I’d hardly single him out as the reason the Brewers fell short.  

He had a bad August but a solid September and finished well.

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