Should/Will the O’s Exercise the Jordan Lyles Option?

[OriolesMagic83]

Lyles' upside seems to be a #5 starter.  He was a good investment in 2022, but for 2023 the O's have to do better.  Take the $11 mill the O's would pay him and put towards a better starter. 

[Just Regular]

Last bits of data filtering in - Drew Smyly has opted OUT of his $10mm 2023 opportunity, hoping I guess to do better.

2022 Smyly was 70th out of 140 Arms throwing 100 innings at K-BB% - basically the Average Bulk Pitcher "50-yard line" bullseye.  91/26 K/BB in 107 innings.

Lyles was 97th out of 140, basically 30th percentile.

Some of the art of designing 1425 is do you want those 110 from Smyly + 60 from the Norfolk shuttle, or one guy with the track record to cover both loads?

I am curious to see if Elias can sell some HR prone LHP to really stress test Walltimore - Smyly now joins Heaney there.

 

Edited November 9, 2022 by Just Regular

[Sports Guy]

There are people who voted they should and they will here.  Seeing as you believed that they should pick it up, does this mean you believe Elias is wrong?

[btdart20]

A more interesting social experiment is if there's a shift in how people view Elias/Orioles decision makers for those who voted 'they should but they won't' or 'they shouldn't but they will' as well.  

[Can_of_corn]

31 minutes ago, btdart20 said:

A more interesting social experiment is if there's a shift in how people view Elias/Orioles decision makers for those who voted 'they should but they won't' or 'they shouldn't but they will' as well.  

I'm pleased they didn't but ultimately we have to see what he does instead.

[Frobby]

55.84% of posters correctly guessed that the O’s would not pick up Lyles’ option.   62.34% agreed with the decision.   

[tntoriole]

5 hours ago, Sports Guy said:

There are people who voted they should and they will here.  Seeing as you believed that they should pick it up, does this mean you believe Elias is wrong?

Nope .. i voted should and would.. but that is why they pay Mike the big bucks. If they sign him at lower cost, that would be ok obviously with me and if they don’t, I will support Elias judgement 

[Moose Milligan]

Oh well. 

[oriolediehard]

Jordan Lyles has signed with the Royals 2 year 17mil

[Going Underground]

12 minutes ago, oriolediehard said:

Jordan Lyles has signed with the Royals 2 year 17mil

He also has some bonus incentives that could take him over $10 mm. a year.

[ScGO's]

He got 2 years!? Wow. I thought he would be another 1 year 7 mil guy.

Lets off Kluber 1 yr 16 Million and see if he bites. Rich Hill probably cost 1 yr 9 Mil

[yark14]

4 hours ago, oriolediehard said:

Jordan Lyles has signed with the Royals 2 year 17mil

Good for him.  He will probably get bored of losing, but at least he's providing excellent financial security for his family.

[Can_of_corn]

4 minutes ago, yark14 said:

Good for him.  He will probably get bored of losing, but at least he's providing excellent financial security for his family.

If I remember correctly last season was the only one in which he's been on a winning team while in the majors.

[CharmCityHokie]

6 minutes ago, Can_of_corn said:

If I remember correctly last season was the only one in which he's been on a winning team while in the majors.

When you've cumulatively been valued at -1.2 bWAR for your career spanning 321 games and 1300+ innings, it's not shocking that perennial winners aren't calling you every offseason. That being said, with this 2 year contract he'll have banked somewhere around $50 mil for his career. Don't have to shine bright, just show up to work every day. 

Edited December 20, 2022 by CharmCityHokie