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I don’t see the need for a back end of the rotation guy.  We have Kremer, Bradish, GRod who all should be in the rotation.  I think we need a guy at the top of the rotation then would rather let Wells and Voth compete for the 5th spot then paying 8+ million for a fifth starter.  

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Statements like this always annoy me.  The guy has been worth 14.1 rWAR, 17.9 fWAR in his career and has pitched in the majors for a decade.  Do you know how few pitchers accomplish that?  It’s a very

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I don't care if we trade for Alcantara tonight, this is a joke of a move. He's a 35 year old with a 4.52 career ERA that has posted an ERA north of 5.00 in 2 of the last 3 seasons. It would have been

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Right, because this signing will definitely be the only one. Quit whining and wait it out. Jesus. 

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7 minutes ago, Just Regular said:

Glad to see.    Does Chris Bassitt qualify for the Joe Flacco Super Bowl champion promotion to "elite" Scout badge?    For me, no, so that's code for Rodon or a trade to be named later.

I think Roch using the word “elite” tells us nothing.  I really don’t care what “code” it is because Roch doesn’t know diddly-squat about what the Orioles plan to do.   

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11 minutes ago, deward said:

You'd be ok with a rotation that includes both of Lyles and Gibson? That doesn't sound like a winner to me. I wouldn't trust either of those guys in a playoff series.

 

I'd be OK with Gibson at the back of the rotation. I'd be fine signing Lyles until Means returns, and as inning eating insurance against the inevitable pitcher going down, or until you add a pitcher in a pre-season trade, or at the deadline.

Not everyone is going to be Verlander.

I expect further growth out of one or more of the young arms. And I'm generally OK with that.

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6 minutes ago, Frobby said:

I think Roch using the word “elite” tells us nothing.  I really don’t care what “code” it is because Roch doesn’t know diddly-squat about what the Orioles plan to do.   

I think he hears the basics with no specifics. 

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11 minutes ago, bpilktree said:

I don’t see the need for a back end of the rotation guy.  We have Kremer, Bradish, GRod who all should be in the rotation.  I think we need a guy at the top of the rotation then would rather let Wells and Voth compete for the 5th spot then paying 8+ million for a fifth starter.  

Career high in innings. Grayson 103, Kremer is 130, and Bradish is 117. 

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1 minute ago, eddie83 said:

Career high in innings. Grayson 103, Kremer is 130, and Bradish is 117. 

Right.  This is kind of a transitional year.  We’re hoping to get more from all of these guys, and Hall.  Maybe from Wells.  But we are better off having one too many pitchers than one too few.  

To be clear, Bradish pitched 144 innings last year including his MiL time.  
 

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Every rotation benefits from a steady back of rotation innings eater type.  As a depth move, I don't really hate it.   I think people are upset because the best names are starting to sign and we haven't signed a big name.  I don't know if we will, but if we signed a big name this move won't seem so terrible.

 

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2 minutes ago, Frobby said:

Well, the obvious reason is that it’s more expensive and would require two multiple-year commitments

That would be a valid excuse if we weren't currently running a bottom 3 payroll and/or had a bunch of very good pitching prospects beating down the door.

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But tell me, who would you have liked us to get for that second pitcher, and what terms do you think we could have signed him for?

I would have been pretty satisfied with some combination of 2 of Bassitt, Walker, Syndergaard, Eovaldi, Lopez, Rogers, Flexen, Taillon, Wacha, Quintana, or Verlander.

If the goal for filling Lyles' rotation spot was not improvement, then I would have preferred we simply re-sign Lyles.

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11 minutes ago, Frobby said:

Right.  This is kind of a transitional year.  We’re hoping to get more from all of these guys, and Hall.  Maybe from Wells.  But we are better off having one too many pitchers than one too few.  

To be clear, Bradish pitched 144 innings last year including his MiL time.  
 

Plus no pitching staff has a season with no injuries  

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7 minutes ago, DrinkinWithFermi said:

That would be a valid excuse if we weren't currently running a bottom 3 payroll and/or had a bunch of very good pitching prospects beating down the door.

I would have been pretty satisfied with some combination of 2 of Bassitt, Walker, Syndergaard, Eovaldi, Lopez, Rogers, Flexen, Taillon, Wacha, Quintana, or Verlander.

If the goal for filling Lyles' rotation spot was not improvement, then I would have preferred we simply re-sign Lyles.

Gibson has been better than Wacha over the last two seasons by almost any measure. 

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14 minutes ago, Frobby said:

Right.  This is kind of a transitional year.  We’re hoping to get more from all of these guys, and Hall.  Maybe from Wells.  But we are better off having one too many pitchers than one too few.  

To be clear, Bradish pitched 144 innings last year including his MiL time.  
 

My bad. You are correct. 

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