Jump to content

2023 Ongoing Lineup Thread

Ripken

By Ripken
in Orioles Talk

 Share

Recommended Posts

forphase1 Hangout Veteran Council

forphase1

Posted
Posted
6 minutes ago, e16bball said:

If you’re ever going to play them, it has to be against lefties — so you’re going to see them together a lot. 

I'm more than fine to never have Mateo starting again.   His role just be a pinch runner/defensive replacement only at this point.   With Gunnar, Westburg, Urias and Frazier and Ortiz waiting in the wings, Mateo should not start.   But if you feel forced to start him on occasion,  don't do it when we already have another black home in the lineup in McCann.

  • Upvote 1
Link to comment
Share on other sites
  • Replies 2.6k
  • Created
  • Last Reply

Top Posters In This Topic

Popular Days

Top Posters In This Topic

Popular Days

Popular Posts

Moose Milligan
Moose Milligan

I've griped about the lineup a few times this year only to have the Orioles come out and put up a good amount of runs. But I am not trying for a reverse lock here when I say that this is a dog***

Fiver6565
Fiver6565

LOL. Don’t let 64-41 stop you guys from criticizing every single lineup. If Mateo batting ninth is our biggest issue we’re in great shape. 

Frobby
Frobby

Kinda hoping that’s our starting lineup in 2024, if not sooner.  

Posted Images

e16bball Major Leaguer

e16bball

Posted
Posted
29 minutes ago, forphase1 said:

I'm more than fine to never have Mateo starting again.   His role just be a pinch runner/defensive replacement only at this point.   With Gunnar, Westburg, Urias and Frazier and Ortiz waiting in the wings, Mateo should not start.   But if you feel forced to start him on occasion,  don't do it when we already have another black home in the lineup in McCann.

Well gosh, they didn’t do too much to back me up on this one the first time through — they saw 6 pitches, at least? 😂

  • Haha 1
Link to comment
Share on other sites
forphase1 Hangout Veteran Council

forphase1

Posted
Posted
28 minutes ago, e16bball said:

Well gosh, they didn’t do too much to back me up on this one the first time through — they saw 6 pitches, at least? 😂

Nope, but they made up for it the next time up.  Shocked me,  but happy to be wrong this time. 

  • Upvote 1
Link to comment
Share on other sites
forphase1 Hangout Veteran Council

forphase1

Posted
Posted
1 hour ago, RZNJ said:

Thank you.  Each had a huge hit in the 4th.

Sure did.  And Mateo just booted a ball to allow the Rays to tie.  Should have been an out, and us going to the 9th with a 1 run lead.  Frankly Mateo's defense has really regressed, and his bat still sucks, even with the nice hit today.  If he can't play top notch defense he shouldn't be playing or likely even on the roster.  

Link to comment
Share on other sites
HakunaSakata Major Leaguer Rising Star

HakunaSakata

Posted
Posted
2 minutes ago, forphase1 said:

Sure did.  And Mateo just booted a ball to allow the Rays to tie.  Should have been an out, and us going to the 9th with a 1 run lead.  Frankly Mateo's defense has really regressed, and his bat still sucks, even with the nice hit today.  If he can't play top notch defense he shouldn't be playing or likely even on the roster.  

100% and it's ridiculous they didn't give him an error. That ball was hit directly at him. Absolutely heartbreaking. Fortunately they just took the lead again. C'mon fellas, let's hang on for the "W"!

  • Upvote 1
Link to comment
Share on other sites
RZNJ Hangout Grand Counsel

RZNJ

Posted
Posted

I do trust Henderson defensively, especially in a big spot, more than Mateo now.  There was also a play towards the hole where he throws on the run and bounces the throw and the runner was safe.   Henderson plants and guns him out IMO. 

Link to comment
Share on other sites
forphase1 Hangout Veteran Council

forphase1

Posted
Posted
7 minutes ago, RZNJ said:

I do trust Henderson defensively, especially in a big spot, more than Mateo now.  There was also a play towards the hole where he throws on the run and bounces the throw and the runner was safe.   Henderson plants and guns him out IMO. 

I agree completely, and I certainly think a good, on the line throw without bouncing, gets that out that Mateo missed.  Overall I used to get keeping Mateo on the roster for his defense, but with the guys we have now (and, frankly, Ortiz in the minors) Mateo just isn't good enough to keep around IMO.  I doubt he gets cut/traded, but I wish he would.  

Link to comment
Share on other sites
Pickles Hangout Grand Counsel

Pickles

Posted
Posted
23 minutes ago, HakunaSakata said:

100% and it's ridiculous they didn't give him an error. That ball was hit directly at him. Absolutely heartbreaking. Fortunately they just took the lead again. C'mon fellas, let's hang on for the "W"!

That ball was 113 MPH off the turf.  That's not an error.

  • Upvote 2
  • Confused 1
Link to comment
Share on other sites
Pickles Hangout Grand Counsel

Pickles

Posted
Posted (edited)
39 minutes ago, Sports Guy said:

Whoever would have thought that Mateo’s defense would fall back some? I mean, that’s a complete surprise!

He's basically played about 95% as well as he did last season in the field.  I think everyone would have conceded that was a possibility.

I didn't see the first play, but the second play, in the 8th, was not only not an error, and it's ridiculous to suggest it was (see other thread), but that's a 113 mph short hop to the backhand side.  I think even Gold Glovers don't make that play every time, or even most of the time.

Edited by Pickles
Link to comment
Share on other sites

Join the conversation

You can post now and register later. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account.

Guest
Reply to this topic...

×   Pasted as rich text.   Paste as plain text instead

  Only 75 emoji are allowed.

×   Your link has been automatically embedded.   Display as a link instead

×   Your previous content has been restored.   Clear editor

×   You cannot paste images directly. Upload or insert images from URL.

×
 Share
Go to topic listing


  • Posts

    • Warehouse
      The Achilles heel for this team is the bullpen

      By Warehouse · Posted

      My thoughts: - I agree that the Achilles heel is the bullpen and not the offense (especially with Westburg, Mountcastle, Urias, and Kjerstad back). - I also agree that Perez is overused in high leverage situations. This is going to come down to the degree you expect his “clutch” performance to be predictive going forward.  - I second the notion that most good bullpens are built with some degree of dumpster diving.  If you go back to offseason threads, there were not many desired bullpen FA targets (outside of unrealistic ones like Hader) that would have worked out well.  Maybe we haven’t “dumpster dived” well enough as evidenced by the success of Kaleb Ort in Houston. - Jacob Webb hasn’t been sharp since returning from the IL and Bowman has looked shaky his last few times out. - We don’t have a true closer, only a group of mostly effective set-up men in Dominguez, Cano, and Coulombe. - Part of me wishes they would be more aggressive with G-Rod and the Mountain. While we expect the team to continue to contend, you never really know how many times you’ll be back in the playoffs. However, I know in my head they are probably making the right decision. - I also feel like they should be auditioning McDermot, Selby, Young, or Strowd (who has been very good since August after rough Norfolk start). They could option Baker who I think is unlikely to have a path to trusted status after last year’s ALDS performance. This feeling may be mostly driven by dissatisfaction with the current state and wanting something better.  It might be unrealistic to expect options unproven at the MLB level to suddenly step in and be key playoff pieces.
    • waroriole
      DH - O'Hearn v. Kjerstad

      By waroriole · Posted

      Oh if we’re talking about what they will do, I can see it being something stupid like McCann at C and Adley at DH. I do think Mullins has enough veteranosity to outweigh Hyde’s obsession with L/R matchups. 
    • Sports Guy
      DH - O'Hearn v. Kjerstad

      By Sports Guy · Posted

      I agree…just not sure the Os will feel that way.  
    • waroriole
      DH - O'Hearn v. Kjerstad

      By waroriole · Posted

      Yeah I can see Rivera at DH. That’s probably a better choice than Kjerstad against Skubal. I’d definitely go with Mullins and Cowser over Slater. Slater has been really bad against LH this year. Only a .543 OPS. He’s actually worse than Cowser against LH and slightly better than Mullins. 
    • sportsfan8703
      Fangraphs updated top prospect list

      By sportsfan8703 · Posted

      Not that it matters, but for some reason I took a lot of heat for suggesting mid season that Basallo would end up #1. It’s all good. We don’t have to agree 100% on everything. 
    • sportsfan8703
      Chayce McDermott 2024

      By sportsfan8703 · Posted

      I don’t think he’s gonna be a part of any playoff roster, but kudos for him to rehab all the way back just to be an option for us if needed.  Also, hopefully now he’s shaken the injury and can have a normal offseason and normal fall instructs.  He’s a dude that if he could just be another Dean Kremer, would be huge for this org. 
    • Sports Guy
      DH - O'Hearn v. Kjerstad

      By Sports Guy · Posted

      My guess is vs Skubal or Ragans, the Os will go with an IF of Gunnar, Westy, Mounty and Urias.  Rivera will DH. Santander starts in RF. Obviously one of Cowser or Mullins starts but do both of them start?  Would they start Slater? Lefties hit Ragans much better than righties do this year. Everyone is terrible vs Skubal although lefties are worse.  

  • Popular Contributors

×
×
  • Create New...