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Adrian Gonzalez - Potential Trade Target?

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If you read between the lines of this post Gonzalez is one of the only big salary players the Pads have without a no trade clause. If ownership is really that concerned with meeting a targeted payroll cap, then maybe they would entertain moving him. Thoughts? Would it be worth parting with one of our young stud pitchers and someone like Scott for Gonzalez? Call me crazy, but I'd even consider taking on Young's salary if that's what it takes to land Gonzalez. Maybe we've been targeting the wrong guy (Greene) from teh Pads all along...

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The San Diego Union Tribune reports that "the Padres apparently need to trade a high-salaried player either before or during the season ... to meet the $40 million payroll mandated by club chairman John Moores."

The team is currently about $5 million over budget and Jake Peavy, Brian Giles, Adrian Gonzalez and Chris Young are the only Padres making over $3 million. Peavy and Giles both have no-trade clauses.

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Very intriguing that they list Gonzalez. I'd definitely go after him. I'd be really hesitant to give up one of the big three, but I'd package Erbe and Scott with others and see where that goes.

I mentioned Young as a potential target earlier in the off-season. I wouldn't be opposed to him. If we brought back Ripken and Minor, we'd have a good hoops team :scratchchinhmm:

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Very intriguing that they list Gonzalez. I'd definitely go after him. I'd be really hesitant to give up one of the big three, but I'd package Erbe and Scott with others and see where that goes.

I mentioned Young as a potential target earlier in the off-season. I wouldn't be opposed to him. If we brought back Ripken and Minor, we'd have a good hoops team :scratchchinhmm:

You might be hesitant to give up one of the big three, but that's what it would take. No chance Erbe/Scott gets it done IMO.

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AGon will take a Bedard like deal and I don't think we have the spare parts to make that happen.

I'm not so sure. the Pads backs are up against the wall. The need a closer right (now that Hoffman's gone)? What about -

Tillman, Matsiuz or Arrieta

Scott

Sherrill

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A.Gonzalez

C.Young

We get our 1b of the future (arguably as good as Teix) and veteran starter for the rotation. The Pads get a young stud, cheap OF, and potential closer. Seems like a win win for both teams based on what they're trying to accomplish.

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You might be hesitant to give up one of the big three, but that's what it would take. No chance Erbe/Scott gets it done IMO.

I'm not sure how desparate they are to get under $40mm in payroll, and I'm not sure how many other teams are willing to give up their prospects. You're right, it's more likely there will be a more competitive offer if one of the big 3 isn't in there, but Erbe and Scott is just a starting point (I view Erbe as the best pitching prospect outside the big 3). You'd definitely would have to add significant pieces for them to return a call.

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I'm not so sure. the Pads backs are up against the wall. The need a closer right (now that Hoffman's gone)? What about -

Tillman, Matsiuz or Arrieta

Scott

Sherrill

for

A.Gonzalez

C.Young

We get our 1b of the future (arguably as good as Teix) and veteran starter for the rotation. The Pads get a young stud, cheap OF, and potential closer. Seems like a win win for both teams based on what they're trying to accomplish.

Since he's a FA in 2011, I don't think I could part with that much talent for 3 years of AGon.

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Gonzalez is a FA in a few years and he is a Boras client, so he isn't likely to extend before he hits FA.

So, trading a bunch for him in years where we are unlikely to compete is a bad move for us.

A team like Anaheim should get him.

What year is that? Is it 2011? I'd still go after him, if you can still keep the big 3 together.

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Gonzalez has 3 years and $13.25M left on his deal, less than $4.5M a year on average. He's a great player making nearly nothing. He's not the guy they'll look to trade.

Peavy makes $8.5M this year and will shoot up to $15M and higher in the coming years. He's the one they trade. They'll take less for Peavy before they decide to move Gonzalez.

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Since he's a FA in 2011, I don't think I could part with that much talent for 3 years of AGon.

Keep in mind you are likely to get back two draft picks when he walks. So it's three years of production and two draft picks.

Getting Gonzalez could speed up the rebuilding timeline.

Tillman, Reimold and Rowell might be enough.

I agree though it's likely they hang on to him. It's a shame how PETCO is destroying his stats though...

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Again, as with all of these proposed trades for established players,now is not the time to be thinking about that.If you need 6 or more players just to compete, as Baltimore does, you don't trade off multiple players to get one. A move like this will never happen any time soon.

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