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17 minutes ago, Alasdaire said:

 

Adding another guess to how this process might have gone, maybe it was the case that Nike wanted to try out a few of these design elements for future use, and they used the Orioles city connects as a guinea pig. Meaning that independent of anything about Baltimore, they had these ideas of patchy letters and a single-tone color scheme with the flair coming from rolling up the sleeves/turning over the socks/popping the collar. The narratives about the city's grit, diverse neighborhoods, and having more beneath the surface were just used after the fact to justify the design they wanted to experiment with anyway, which is why it feels so forced.

But then on top of that they just made shockingly bad color choices.

I agree strongly wiht the narrative came after the design.  I also agree with BRF in the "too many cooks", everyone wants input (Nike, MLB, Orioles) and unless someone drives the process it's a mess. 

Then the Baltimore/inventing-"first to design the inside of  our jersey" seems contrived to fit the design.  Secondly, they didn't design the jersey Nike did.  Thirdly-the quote "first to design the inside of our sersey" is on par with "we are winning the offseason. 

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3 hours ago, HandsomeQuack said:

Just the impression I am under based on years of Nike doing this, first in college football, then NBA and now MLB. I don't think the O's CCs are the worst example of this but a lot of times the narratives they attach with the unveilings verge on cringe-inducing.

And the goal of the City Connects is to sell jerseys, and the design is the most important factor in achieving that goal.

I'd be surprised if Nike reverse-engineered a narrative around an already-finished design.  I've sat in these meetings (not for Nike), and the truly frightening thing is the level of detail that goes into it.  The research department gets up and presents 50 slides about "Baltimore's Uniqueness," then the quantitative research will be presented, then the focus group research will be presented... a month later the design department will have their turn, then two weeks after that the Brand department will present their findings about how 2/3rds of what Design presented doesn't comport with company font standards, etc., etc., etc.   Then, Design will return to the drawing board and present new concepts, followed up by Legal making a presentation shooting down about half of those because of copyright considerations... it's a spectacle to behold and not for the faint of heart.   The end result then looks like something that was reverse-engineered when in fact, it was probably over-engineered.  🤣

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13 minutes ago, BRobinsonfan said:

You know what would have been cool?  Shiny black velour uniforms!    🤣

The Brooklyn satin ones from the 40's (worn to aid in sight for night games) were pretty nasty but probably felt great.  Black satin would probably present pretty nice!! 

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6 minutes ago, BRobinsonfan said:

I'd be surprised if Nike reverse-engineered a narrative around an already-finished design.  I've sat in these meetings (not for Nike), and the truly frightening thing is the level of detail that goes into it.  The research department gets up and presents 50 slides about "Baltimore's Uniqueness," then the quantitative research will be presented, then the focus group research will be presented... a month later the design department will have their turn, then two weeks after that the Brand department will present their findings about how 2/3rds of what Design presented doesn't comport with company font standards, etc., etc., etc.   Then, Design will return to the drawing board and present new concepts, followed up by Legal making a presentation shooting down about half of those because of copyright considerations... it's a spectacle to behold and not for the faint of heart.   The end result then looks like something that was reverse-engineered when in fact, it was probably over-engineered.  🤣

Plus you are dealing with three distinct entities that all want input and have their own agenda.  Its a cluster####.  I sat through way too many of those meetings.    

The reason I think the narrative may follow is that I don't buy into the story...it's too complicated.  I like the slides about the script B but the jersey but I don't think anyone connects Baltimore with inventions, and then somehow "inventing" designing the inside of jersey....

I get that they might sell more jerseys because they are attractive but I don't understand the branding portion at all.  I do have to remember that the uniform is not marketing to an older guy like me!!

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5 minutes ago, SilentJames said:

yeah they have grown on me enough that Im doing it. 

 

Mullins, Henderson, Rutshcman - that is the choice. 

I got a hat and a couple of shirts. I don’t love the plainness of the jerseys or the lack of orange but on the non jersey products, some of the designs look good.

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