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3 hours ago, btdart20 said:

I have no clue what Hall's velo was last night (I don't recall the game showing it).  Maybe it was the angle of the camera, but he looked like he was throwing gas last night.  No hits, 4 BB, 3 K over 3.1.  The control issues are still there, but he looked ventage Hall otherwise.  If someone knows how to get the velo, I'm sure I'm not the only one curious...

I'm still holding hope for a Peralta/Snell type outcome as a starter for Hall long-term.  But he should be a BP option after the AS break (or trade deadline at least).

Hall had a few fastballs reach 95 but by his last inning he was throwing 92-93. This is according to the savant website. 

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3 hours ago, sportsfan8703 said:

Garrett has options. So does Vespi. I think we’re at the point where we need optionable arms in the last two bullpen spots. 
 

Voth and Perez aren’t luxuries that we can afford to keep. They have no options. 

I would keep Perez over Voth.  Perez was a great 8th inning guy last year.  Voth is found money.  The O's already got more from Voth than anyone could expect. 

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On 6/9/2023 at 12:42 PM, Spy Fox said:

I'm glad to see Vespi up and I think he has a good chance to stay for a while. I thought he should have been called up instead of Rom and Irvin last month. 

Well, wrong there as Vespi is back down. 

Was thinking Akin could be the one to go here, but to be fair he’s been a little better recently. 

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Akin, Baumann, Zimmer all need to be on the Norfolk shuttle as long men as Voth has no options. Then ME needs to TELL Hyde to use the long men in middle innings for more than 1 inning. Let the setup guys (Cano, Baker, Perez, Columbe, and Givens when he is back) work 7th-8th innings. Voth should never be brought in the 9th inning or 10th inning with a runner on. Akin is more than a loogy, use him 1-2 innings like first half last year before Hyde burned him out, he is more than a loogy.  Stop the matchup crap when the starter does a 5 and dive. These pitchers are better when they know their job. It's not good for setup guys to be used haphazardly by Hyde in middle innings. Baker, Perez, Tate were mostly good last year setting up Bautista after the Lopez trade and then Cano comes outta nowhere and they are "demoted" to middle inning matchup guys and Akin is a loogy. Akin, Baumann, Zimmerman, Voth need to go 2 innings unless they melt down,.

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41 minutes ago, AnythingO's said:

Akin, Baumann, Zimmer all need to be on the Norfolk shuttle as long men as Voth has no options. Then ME needs to TELL Hyde to use the long men in middle innings for more than 1 inning. Let the setup guys (Cano, Baker, Perez, Columbe, and Givens when he is back) work 7th-8th innings. Voth should never be brought in the 9th inning or 10th inning with a runner on. Akin is more than a loogy, use him 1-2 innings like first half last year before Hyde burned him out, he is more than a loogy.  Stop the matchup crap when the starter does a 5 and dive. These pitchers are better when they know their job. It's not good for setup guys to be used haphazardly by Hyde in middle innings. Baker, Perez, Tate were mostly good last year setting up Bautista after the Lopez trade and then Cano comes outta nowhere and they are "demoted" to middle inning matchup guys and Akin is a loogy. Akin, Baumann, Zimmerman, Voth need to go 2 innings unless they melt down,.

You’re making a mistake lumping Baumann in with Akin, Zimmerman, and  Voth. At this point I think he is behind only Cano and The Mountain in terms of reliability in high stakes situations. Hyde seems to think so, too.  He should ride the Norfolk shuttle only if there are no other options. 

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