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8 minutes ago, Greg Pappas said:

One of my own:  The White Sox send SP Lucas Giolito (FA after this season) to the O's for SS/2B Joey Ortiz (#65 on MLB's Top 100 Prospects list)

The White Sox have a brutally struggling Tim Anderson at SS, but have a hole at 2B as well.  I'd be okay if they prefer Norby. It may be a lot to give up for half a season, but Giolito could be a real difference maker in getting to the playoffs and how far we advance.

 

Makes sense, though I think the White Sox would demand more than just Ortiz/Norby.  Just a guess but I bet they'd probably want one of our arms in return too -- either Hall/Johnson/Povich or Kremer/Irvin.  Maybe we could get away with giving them another position player or two lower down instead.

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I'm not giving up six years of Mayo for two months of Snell and Hader.

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What do you mean "why?"   Because it's a message board, trades are interesting, the Orioles should be buyers, the deadline is 3 weeks away... do you really need that question answered?

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12 minutes ago, pdiddy said:

For comparison’s sake the Astros gave up their 3,9,11 for Verlander.

Corbin Burnes isn’t Justin Verlander. 
 

I don’t necessarily think it’s an overlay but it has to be considered that the O’s likely would have zero chance of retaining Burnes. If the org thinks that he is good enough to propel them over the Rays for the remainder of this year amd next year and that he could be part of a WS run this year and next year then I could see them doing it. 
 

I am not sure that the Brewers would do it though as their 5th, 6th and 8th ranked prospects are SS/2B/3B. Their top two guys are OF. I almost feel like they would be looking for another pitcher in addition to Hall and Westburg. 

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14 minutes ago, Sports Guy said:

It’s definitely not an overpay. 

Is 2023 Burnes > 2017 Verlander?

Milwaukee owes us somehow after how crappy K Rod was for us and then magically returned to All Star status when he returned to the Brewers the next year. 

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2 minutes ago, pdiddy said:

Is 2023 Burnes > 2017 Verlander?

Milwaukee owes us somehow after how crappy K Rod was for us and then magically returned to All Star status when he returned to the Brewers the next year. 

I don’t think so due to the declining K rate of Burnes. 

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7 minutes ago, banks703 said:

Corbin Burnes isn’t Justin Verlander. 
 

I don’t necessarily think it’s an overlay but it has to be considered that the O’s likely would have zero chance of retaining Burnes. If the org thinks that he is good enough to propel them over the Rays for the remainder of this year amd next year and that he could be part of a WS run this year and next year then I could see them doing it. 
 

I am not sure that the Brewers would do it though as their 5th, 6th and 8th ranked prospects are SS/2B/3B. Their top two guys are OF. I almost feel like they would be looking for another pitcher in addition to Hall and Westburg. 

At the time of the trade, Verlander was thought of as a former ace towards the end of his career.  He was thought as more of a solid #2.  I remember there being a major opinion that Houston got the worse end of the deal being stuck w/ most of his huge salary.  I think Detroit had to pick up $8 mill/yr. 

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37 minutes ago, pdiddy said:

For comparison’s sake the Astros gave up their 3,9,11 for Verlander.

And none of those guys - except for Rogers, very minimally - have contributed much at the major league level.  Just shows that highly ranked prospects can flame out, and Houston didn't have a horrible system.

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Sorry to be a "downer" but I don't see ME trading for a TOR starter.  Unless he is being coy he stated that "he doesn't like the way the market for starters is panning out"-paraphrased on High Heat.  To me that is the start of a rationalization regurgitated from free agency.

I really like Elias but he would have been better served signing another starter in FA and trading Mateo in the off season while he had value.  The Orioles have been very, very fortunate with the health of their starters and if they lose a starter or two..... 

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20 minutes ago, Aristotelian said:

What about 2+ years of Mitch Keller of the Pirates? He's really putting together a terrific year. Might they be interested in something like Joey Ortiz and Kremer? 

I don't see the Pirates trading that guy, and if they do, they will get a haul from some team, and if it's us, people won't be happy with what we had to give up.....just my opinion.

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20 minutes ago, pdiddy said:

Is 2023 Burnes > 2017 Verlander?

Milwaukee owes us somehow after how crappy K Rod was for us and then magically returned to All Star status when he returned to the Brewers the next year. 

Ummm, we did send them Jonathan Schoop 🙂😬

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