Orioles related trade rumors and speculation leading up to the deadline

[Alasdaire]

5 minutes ago, baltfan said:

Big difference between Mayo and Kjerstad and Norby and Ortiz or Westburg.  

4 minutes ago, dystopia said:

I could part with Norby and Cowser for him. 

If the White Sox give up a more-or-less homegrown guy who they think is a Cy Young caliber player under contract for the next three seasons, they don't want whichever scraps we decide to give them. They want the same guys who we do. They're under no obligation to trade Cease.

So say Kjerstad + Ortiz + Povich is their price. Or Mayo + Hall. Guys who it hurts to lose.

Can you fault Elias for saying no thanks to these requests? These are pieces who will have the same value this winter as they do now, and once they're gone that's it.

[24fps]

4 minutes ago, dystopia said:

I could part with Norby and Cowser for him. 

That's the most I would do as well.  Maybe a lottery ticket too.

[Billy F-Face3]

3 minutes ago, interloper said:

I would think they would have been "considering" Cease from the jump. They're considering everybody to some degree. 

Yup. They will deal with the team who gives them the best/most fair deal. 

[RZNJ]

This is Elias.

He’s got 3 or 4 scenarios and going down to the wire to get the deal that makes the most sense.   Getting the most and giving up the least.   We’ll see soon how he managed.  

[Pickles]

2 minutes ago, RZNJ said:

I think what the Cardinals got back in the trade says it all.   SG wanted DeJong to replace Mateo last spring.  Two wrongs don’t make a right!   Lol

I remember well.

[jrobb21613]

All the talka bout Verlander, E-Rod Lorenzen and Cease and we'll probably end up with Ryan Yarborough.

[baltfan]

1 minute ago, Greg Pappas said:

I'm unfamiliar with this account, but... 

 

Be nice if we saw who was on the lineup card before it was taken down.

[Moose Milligan]

Just now, Three Run Homer said:

At least you didn't Rickroll us.  

What is this, 2008?

[Roll Tide]

1 hour ago, CallMeBrooksie said:

I'm not sure what your Verlander hypothetical has to do with our discussion on the merits of rentals, but I predict that you will be unsatisfied regardless of what moves are made (Obviously Holliday isn't getting dealt).

Everyone wants a significant improvement that is under team control, but also thinks our top 6-7 guys are untouchable... Good luck

Why will I be unsatisfied? I’m on the Elias train, if he gets someone we can have an opinion on the deal. If he doesn’t I’ll trust that it didn’t make sense to jeopardize the talent base and future.

I have to think we add some pieces. I expect one of Westburg, Mateo, Urias, Norby, or Ortiz to be gone. I think they’d get a better CF replacement if possible for the rest of the season. Cowser is a liability right now at the plate and pretty rough in CF. And we need to lighten the load on the rotation and back end of the pen if we expect to go deep into the playoffs. 

[RZNJ]

The selling teams are going to get antsy because they may be left holding a rental with no buyers left.   Who else is in on Lorenzen, ERod, and Flaherty?

[RVAOsFan]

Irvin?

[OsFanSinceThe80s]

2 minutes ago, Pickles said:

Personally, I'm not giving up a Godfather package for Cease.  He's not The Man for that.

Agreed. The White Sox want a trade package for the pitcher Cease was last year and not what his actual value is as a whole.  At least with Elias I don’t see him doing anything desperate and offering a godfather package to acquire Cease. 

[ThisIsBirdland]

Minimal movement over the last few hours, all things considered. Figure the E-Rod/Dodgers deal would at least be done by now given the reporting on it if it's happening. Maybe he's just leveraging that no trade clause.

[baltfan]

2 minutes ago, Alasdaire said:

If the White Sox give up a more-or-less homegrown guy who they think is a Cy Young caliber player under contract for the next three seasons, they don't want whichever scraps we decide to give them. They want the same guys who we do. They're under no obligation to trade Cease.

So say Kjerstad + Ortiz + Povich is their price. Or Mayo + Hall. Guys who it hurts to lose.

Can you fault Elias for saying no thanks to these requests? These are pieces who will have the same value this winter as they do now, and once they're gone that's it.

I will trust Elias on this.  Cease has an over 4.00 ERA and his FIP is 3.63.  It isn't clear to me if he is a #1, #2, or a #3.  I trust that Elias knows and will pay the appropriate price.  

[Fan4Life]

1 minute ago, RVAOsFan said:

Irvin?

Would you trade Tyler Wells for him?