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8 minutes ago, Tryptamine said:

They can't even give him a qualifying offer so they lose him for absolutely nothing now. That's unimaginably terrible by their front office. 

To be fair, they could still win the AL Central lol

Also, why can’t they QO him if he opts out?  Is that part of the new CBA?

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Just now, Fan4Life said:

Anyone find it strange the Yankees weren't mentioned at all today?

Nope. They are in last place, ten games out, with an old expensive roster, and very few attractive assets. What could they really do? Try to improve marginally so that they could climb their way out of the basement and into 4th place?

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9 minutes ago, TheWall said:

I really don't see how Flaherty doesn't make us better when you take Wells leaving the rotation into consideration. 

Trading for Flaherty is better than not making any trades at all.

Trading for Flaherty sucks because they should have been able to trade for someone much better.  

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Just now, Bemorewins said:

Nope. They are in last place, ten games out, with an old expensive roster, and very few attractive assets. What could they really do? Try to improve marginally so that they could climb their way out of the basement and into 4th place?

I mean, there is plenty they could have done. They have some of the most attractive BP arms in the league, they could have shopped.

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1 minute ago, Bemorewins said:

Nope. They are in last place, ten games out, with an old expensive roster, and very few attractive assets. What could they really do? Try to improve marginally so that they could climb their way out of the basement and into 4th place?

They used to buy their way out....

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1 minute ago, ArtVanDelay said:

To be fair, they could still win the AL Central lol

Also, why can’t they QO him if he opts out?  Is that part of the new CBA?

They can’t QO him because he’s already be QO’d once in his career. The new CBA says a player can’t be QO’s twice in a career. So I guess they thought it was better to keep him and get the pick. 

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2 minutes ago, Bemorewins said:

No disrepect, but have you looked at his numbers this season and compared to Holliday, Kjerstad, Mayo? If so, do you see anything that is slightly similar/equivalent? 

No and I'm not going to. When trying to quickly show the not being apples to apples I went by raw rankings. Over 60 players separated Holliday from Gilbert on the rankings and as you pointed out that gap probably has only grown. 

To be fair the Mets would have wanted a Mayo or Norby from us and that's too much for Verlander. Rather give up lotto tickets and squeeze something out of Flaherty.

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Just now, sportsfan8703 said:

They can’t QO him because he’s already be QO’d once in his career. The new CBA says a player can’t be QO’s twice in a career. So I guess they thought it was better to keep him and get the pick. 

Thanks.  I’m out of rep right now.  

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11 minutes ago, Bemorewins said:

Do you mind giving a little clarity on the first part? Like where did you see the Astros #1 prospect being rated within 40-50 players of Jackson Holliday?

I didn't say he was. I was admittedly being simplistic but obviously they were looking for value for an elderly, not nearly as good Verlander. I personally wouldn't have given up anything of major value for him. I don't really think anyone on here would have. My main point in responding was that the poster seemed to be taking Elias to task for not getting Verlander.

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1 minute ago, Fan4Life said:

They used to buy their way out....

You used a very key word there "used to". That's not the reality of the game right now. It's very hard to "buy" prospect because no one can really afford to sell them. Because of the expense of star contracts in today's game, no team (except the Mets) can really afford to have a roster of them.

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