Jump to content

What do we do about Jorge Mateo?

OsFanSinceThe80s

By OsFanSinceThe80s
in Orioles Talk

 Share

Recommended Posts

Tony-OH Hangout Grand Counsel

Tony-OH

Posted
Posted
17 minutes ago, wildcard said:

And next season?

I like to focus on next season after the season. Saying that, I'm not sure they can keep a luxury like him all season if he's not going to hit. How much he's used and how successful he is during the playoffs this year could go a long way for his potential role here in 2024 IMHO.

Link to comment
Share on other sites
  • Replies 249
  • Created
  • Last Reply

Top Posters In This Topic

Popular Days

Top Posters In This Topic

Popular Days

Popular Posts

Frobby
Frobby

Mateo has failed to make makeable plays at least 4 times in the last 9 games, every one of them in a consequential spot.  His offense isn’t bad, it’s HORRENDOUS.  He’s absolutely forfeited his privile

OsFanSinceThe80s
OsFanSinceThe80s

Mateo is giving nothing to the team right now. Mateo is supposed to at least be elite with his defense and he just isn't right now. Mateo is fast, but they have other players who can pinch run and als

Moose Milligan
Moose Milligan

I dunno who downvoted this post but that was silly. Everything here is spot on.    I was a big Mateo defender this off-season but he’s no longer defensible and he hasn’t been for quite some tim

Posted Images

Ridgway22 Major Leaguer Cup of Coffee

Ridgway22

Posted
Posted (edited)
On 7/25/2023 at 6:42 PM, OsFanSinceThe80s said:

Mateo is giving nothing to the team right now. Mateo is supposed to at least be elite with his defense and he just isn't right now. Mateo is fast, but they have other players who can pinch run and also bring something useful to the team. Even if Gunnar is going to be out temporarily there's too much talent in the organization to just let Mateo play SS everyday until Gunnar's back.

I doubt the Orioles will do anything, but Mateo is a net negative right now and his hitting in April was merely a mirage. Mateo can't bunt so in the ninth inning he couldn't even move Westburg over to 2B. It's a pennant race and everyone needs to contribute in someway even if they're role players.

I strongly disagree with this statement. He is providing end-of-the-bench excellence. Strong shortstop defense and speed. And he leads team with 5 sac bunts. His bat is not zero against lefties. 

(Did I seriously just respond to a post from July? Yes. Apparently I did.)

Edited by Ridgway22
Link to comment
Share on other sites
George Zuverink Major Leaguer Cup of Coffee

George Zuverink

Posted
Posted
7 minutes ago, Ridgway22 said:

I strongly disagree with this statement. He is providing end-of-the-bench excellence. Strong shortstop defense and speed. And he leads team with 5 sac bunts. His bat is not zero against lefties. 

(Did I seriously just respond to a post from July? Yes. Apparently I did.)

That’s a thing about this year’s Orioles. Stick around long enough and every player has come up big at some point. Seems like more than rhe blind pig or broken clock phenomenon.

  • Upvote 1
Link to comment
Share on other sites
Frobby Hangout Grand Counsel

Frobby

Posted
Posted

In his last 16 games, dating back to August 20, Mateo has hit .302/.375/.419.  It’s been nice seeing him not be a complete black hole on offense.  I don’t really want him starting any playoff games, but if he had to come to the plate during one, at least right now there’d be some chance of getting a competitive at bat, unlike most of May-August.  

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Join the conversation

You can post now and register later. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account.

Guest
Reply to this topic...

×   Pasted as rich text.   Paste as plain text instead

  Only 75 emoji are allowed.

×   Your link has been automatically embedded.   Display as a link instead

×   Your previous content has been restored.   Clear editor

×   You cannot paste images directly. Upload or insert images from URL.

×
 Share
Go to topic listing


  • Posts

    • SteveA
      Looks like the Detroit Tigers

      By SteveA · Posted

      Another possibility: If you win game 1, maybe you don't ptich Eflin in Game 2 and try to win Game 2 without using him.   I mean, worst that can happen is you lose and have Eflin for game 3 anyway.   So you won't lose the wild card series without pitching your two best. But you COULD win the wild card series without your two best, and then you would have Eflin and Burnes lined up for games 1 and 2 in Cleveland
    • LookitsPuck
      Can Cowser still win Rookie of The Year over Gil/Wells ?

      By LookitsPuck · Posted

      I like Law a lot, but that is a beyond asinine comment about not playing every day on a playoff team. You know how many playoff teams would slot him in the lineup immediately every game? Answer: the large majority. The Yankees would take Cowser over Verdugo The Tigers might not put him in over Greene/Meadows/Carpenter, but they’d DH him over their options. Cowser would start over every outfielder for the Royals, IMHO. He’d start over Meyers and Dubon for the Astros. The Guardians would probably start him over anybody not named Kwan in the OF, tbh.  I can keep going.
    • LookitsPuck
      Can Cowser still win Rookie of The Year over Gil/Wells ?

      By LookitsPuck · Posted

      Even more of a reason to like FG over BBref,  tbh. Thanks, didn’t realize they switched this year. My point re: FIP is that I rather prefer it over RA/9, not to say it’s perfect. RA/9 treats all runs allowed by a pitcher the same regardless of them being earned or unearned. So, a pitcher on a team with a terrible defense is going to be judged much more harshly than somebody that pitches on a top tier defense. Not to mention the bullpen taking over mid inning dilemma. The funny thing is in your example re: FIP, RA/9 would have the first pitcher but love the second. Either way, these stats, like nearly all single solitary stats, aren’t best taken alone.  For your example, let’s say Pitcher A allowed weak contact and the defenders just had poor range, poor arms, whatever, but in the second example the defenders had great range and great arms making amazing plays to prevent any damage…then what?  Anyways, give me FIP over RA/9 was my point. But if you want to truly assess a pitcher, you’re going to need a few complimentary stats to go along with it.  
    • Just Regular
      Can Cowser still win Rookie of The Year over Gil/Wells ?

      By Just Regular · Posted

      Really zooming the microscope in on one game with Tarik Skubal, would you consider batting Austin Slater 3rd or 4th to basically pinch hit in the 1st inning, and then replace him in LF with Cowser in the top of the 2nd inning. A tactic that might look good to the SIGBOT but could freak out actual ballplayers.
    • Warehouse
      Looks like the Detroit Tigers

      By Warehouse · Posted

      It would make sense. I think there are four possibilities for not announcing Eflin yet: 1. It’s going to be Eflin, we’re just waiting to announce to make it harder for Tigers/Royals to prepare. 2. Hyde and FO are discussing whether to slot Eflin for game 3 to possibly save him for ALDS game 1. 3. Hyde and FO are discussing a possible opener strategy for game 2. 4. Eflin has some minor aches/pains/soreness so we’re delaying the announcement to make sure he will be healthy enough. 
    • Frobby
      2024 Ongoing Lineup Thread

      By Frobby · Posted

      I can see the arguments for and against.  Gunnar may have had an opinion.  
    • Baseball fandom
      9/29 Game 162 vs Twins. End of regular season

      By Baseball fandom · Posted

      I know I've been a Oriole critic these last few months but many of us have and deservedly so but congrats are really in order for a team that was decimated with injuries especially the pitching staff and still found a way to 90 wins and the playoffs. The first Orioles team with back to back 90 plus wins since the 1982, 1983  teams. Wow.  That's hard to believe. Also back to back playoff teams something the Machado, Jones, Markakis and Wieters led teams couldn't even pull off.  

  • Popular Contributors

×
×
  • Create New...