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If the O's need Scott Moore they can either just recall him from Norfolk when he passes through waivers, or find another one and acquire him for Freddy Deza or something. There will be 23 guys just like Moore on the waiver wire in late March. Just because the O's don't have six of him in the system doesn't mean a bunch of other teams are in the same situation.

Never fret too much over someone who lives in the gray area between AAA and the majors. Talent in baseball is a pyramid, and there are always spare AAAA guys to go around. And besides, Moore isn't even Jon Knott or JR House. He's a step down.

While I have enormous appreciation for your knowledge base, Jon, your absolute disregard for defense as an important part of the game sometimes borders on the comical. OPS, schmOPS, blah blah blah. (And I know that your stats are quite a bit more sophisticated than OPS+ alone.) It ain't the end-all and be-all, no matter the impressive distance we've traveled in the Bill James era.
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While I have enormous appreciation for your knowledge base, Jon, your absolute disregard for defense as an important part of the game sometimes borders on the comical. OPS, schmOPS, blah blah blah. (And I know that your stats are quite a bit more sophisticated than OPS+ alone.) It ain't the end-all and be-all, no matter the impressive distance we've traveled in the Bill James era.

I don't think you have the slightest idea what you're talking about. Scott Moore is an ok corner player with a glove, who proved during spring training that he has the ability to stand around and pretend to be a second baseman. I've never seen anyone suggest that he's some kind of defensive whiz. The year the O's had Knott he was coming off a season where he led the PCL in homers and was a far better hitter than the O's starting LFer (Payton). House was likely to put up an OPS north of .800 while Paul Bako was logging his typical .220-1-8 line for the entire year. Their bats were more than enough to overcome some defensive shortcomings. Jon Knott could put up an .800 OPS in the majors and play a passable LF. Scott Moore would be lucky to post a .700 in the majors while playing somewhat better defense at first or third.

I stand by my statements 100%, with full knowledge of the defensive abilities of all the players involved.

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Never fret too much over someone who lives in the gray area between AAA and the majors. Talent in baseball is a pyramid, and there are always spare AAAA guys to go around. And besides, Moore isn't even Jon Knott or JR House. He's a step down.

Knott was one of those all bat kinda players who was never going to see the field. House had a reputation of a siv behind the plate and his performance at the MiL All-Star game probably sealed his fate in Baltimore.

Moore however, is a guy who can play several positions at league average and has some pop in his bat. He's essentially the poor man's Ty Wigginton. When looking back over some of the "utility men" the O's have had in the past, like Brandon Fahey, Luis Lopez, Omir Santos, Jose Leon... Scott Moore just seems more deserving than a DFA.

Scott Moore will be back though. That I do agree with.

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And the bet is officially on...

Stupid move by the Orioles as they could use Moore at least in ST in case of an injury, but now at least he'll get to play hopefully on a ML roster like he deserves. Gotta wonder if keeping Simon or Waters is really worth losing Scott Moore.

I am proud of you Trea. You didn't explode all over Andy M. :)

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This is a lot of hot air for a guy who has a 99% chance to pass waivers.

Frankly, we got Wiggy. A guy who can hit left handers well. Really well.

Who cares about Moore?

I'd rather have Wigginton as well. $3 million a year for 2 years isn't bad for a guy who can man a few IF positions as well as the outfield in a pinch. Plus he can hit lefties very well.

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I don't think you have the slightest idea what you're talking about. Scott Moore is an ok corner player with a glove, who proved during spring training that he has the ability to stand around and pretend to be a second baseman. I've never seen anyone suggest that he's some kind of defensive whiz. The year the O's had Knott he was coming off a season where he led the PCL in homers and was a far better hitter than the O's starting LFer (Payton). House was likely to put up an OPS north of .800 while Paul Bako was logging his typical .220-1-8 line for the entire year. Their bats were more than enough to overcome some defensive shortcomings. Jon Knott could put up an .800 OPS in the majors and play a passable LF. Scott Moore would be lucky to post a .700 in the majors while playing somewhat better defense at first or third.

I stand by my statements 100%, with full knowledge of the defensive abilities of all the players involved.

Knott put up Scott Moore type numbers in the PCL - at age 27. If House can play catcher in the bigs, and Knott can play LF in the bigs, why isn't any MLB team letting them?

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Knott put up Scott Moore type numbers in the PCL - at age 27. If House can play catcher in the bigs, and Knott can play LF in the bigs, why isn't any MLB team letting them?

That's the question.

It's not as if our options in LF prior to Luke Scott were anything respectable or even close to it (Fahey, old Surhoff, etc.). We could have certainly used a guy like Knott. Bako wasn't exactly stellar behind the plate in any fashion and couldn't hit anything worth a damn. House would have certainly filled in nicely. I guess the Orioles thought he couldn't be a viable catcher.

Either way, I would have loved to audition these guys in some stretch at DH. Our DHs in the past have been pitiful.

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