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1 minute ago, RZNJ said:

Ah, Eduardo Rodriguez did indeed opt out.   I guess the more FA pitchers the better our chances of landing one IF they decide to play that game.

Could be the old opt out and sign a new deal with the team play.  You know the one that never seems to work out for the team.

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55 minutes ago, ShoelesJoe said:

I have a bad feeling that the Yankees will go hard at Bellinger, Ohtani, and Yamamoto. If Cashman doesn't get NY into the 2024 playoffs his head will be lopped off before the WS even starts. 

I don't know. They don't spend  like they used  too

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1 hour ago, ShoelesJoe said:

I have a bad feeling that the Yankees will go hard at Bellinger, Ohtani, and Yamamoto. If Cashman doesn't get NY into the 2024 playoffs his head will be lopped off before the WS even starts. 

Around the league, it seems like franchises have taken notice of how successful teams like the Orioles and Diamondbacks (and previously the Astros) have been with minimum payroll + drafting and developing. The Mets have totally reversed their strategy in a matter of months and seem to be going for a youth development movement. The Padress have been rumored to want to cut 50-100 million dollars off their payroll. The Yankees got burned by some bad contracts and in spite of one of the highest payrolls, they still came in last place.

I think most of the league is beginning to catch up to the idea that having quality youth talent you can develop, and have them controllable for the foreseeable, is the better (most sustainable) strategy to build a winning organization. (Unless you're the Angels, then you just mortgage the entire farm.)

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Just now, Billy F-Face3 said:

Around the league, it seems like franchises have taken notice of how successful teams like the Orioles and Diamondbacks (and previously the Astros) have been with minimum payroll + drafting and developing. The Mets have totally reversed their strategy in a matter of months and seem to be going for a youth development movement. The Padress have been rumored to want to cut 50-100 million dollars off their payroll. The Yankees got burned by some bad contracts and in spite of one of the highest payrolls, they still came in last place.

I think most of the league is beginning to catch up to the idea that having quality youth talent you can develop, and have them controllable for the foreseeable, is the better (most sustainable) strategy to build a winning organization. (Unless you're the Angels, then you just mortgage the entire farm.)

I would include the Reds among the teams of minimal payroll and youthful talent. And under a small sample size, we shouldn't forget that the Pirates started the season off hot in first place too.

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3 hours ago, Billy F-Face3 said:

Around the league, it seems like franchises have taken notice of how successful teams like the Orioles and Diamondbacks (and previously the Astros) have been with minimum payroll + drafting and developing. The Mets have totally reversed their strategy in a matter of months and seem to be going for a youth development movement. The Padress have been rumored to want to cut 50-100 million dollars off their payroll. The Yankees got burned by some bad contracts and in spite of one of the highest payrolls, they still came in last place.

I think most of the league is beginning to catch up to the idea that having quality youth talent you can develop, and have them controllable for the foreseeable, is the better (most sustainable) strategy to build a winning organization. (Unless you're the Angels, then you just mortgage the entire farm.)

The Mets are reloading for 2025. 

They aren't moving to a draft and develop plan with minimal payroll.

The Padres took out a 50M loan to cover payroll, it wouldn't be surprising if they cut payroll to some extent.

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2 hours ago, Billy F-Face3 said:

Around the league, it seems like franchises have taken notice of how successful teams like the Orioles and Diamondbacks (and previously the Astros) have been with minimum payroll + drafting and developing. The Mets have totally reversed their strategy in a matter of months and seem to be going for a youth development movement. The Padress have been rumored to want to cut 50-100 million dollars off their payroll. The Yankees got burned by some bad contracts and in spite of one of the highest payrolls, they still came in last place.

I think most of the league is beginning to catch up to the idea that having quality youth talent you can develop, and have them controllable for the foreseeable, is the better (most sustainable) strategy to build a winning organization. (Unless you're the Angels, then you just mortgage the entire farm.)

I think the Yankees might look at their 2023 season and just see a run of bad luck and injuries, rather than a mediocre team. That might be right, and it might be wrong. They've already got a bazillion dollars invested in their roster, so what's another couple hundred mil between friends. Going into cheap rebuild mode might not even be possible for NY at this point. Once they started they'd be about where we were in 2019, but w/o Elias and Sig calling the shots. I can't see their fanbase quietly waiting it out for the next winning team. 

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