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2 hours ago, interloper said:

This is what I've been saying! I think in varying ways having the top farm system is actually making it harder for us to make trades. 

I think this is from a fan/writer perspective. I’m sure the 15-30 guys in our farm are assigned grades properly. Teams like Atlanta have loaded farms all of the time. They never seem to have a problem. 

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I'm just catching up on this but we know how Elias and company share information outside of their inner circle. They don't. We've heard from players many times say they don't hear from the Orioles abo

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14 minutes ago, Frobby said:

Rumors of a Woo for Paredes deal make it pretty clear that Santander or Mountcastle wouldn’t be nearly enough.  

Correct…never said Santander would work. Just that I was hoping they would want established guys over the prospects..which seems to be accurate.

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1 minute ago, interloper said:

The WS are an unserious organization.

I don’t agree, I see no harm in them pulling back if they don’t like the current offers. I’m guessing the Os and Reds have offers on the table and the Sox are just hoping someone else misses out and steps up later this winter.

I guess it comes down to what are the odds the Os and Reds move on and land a SP elsewhere, leaving the Sox holding Cease at least until the deadline?

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21 minutes ago, ThisIsBirdland said:

I don’t agree, I see no harm in them pulling back if they don’t like the current offers. 

Andy McPhail waited allllllll winterrrr to trade Erik Bedard back in the day.  That strategy doesn’t always work, but sometimes it pays to be patient.  

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41 minutes ago, ThisIsBirdland said:

I don’t agree, I see no harm in them pulling back if they don’t like the current offers. I’m guessing the Os and Reds have offers on the table and the Sox are just hoping someone else misses out and steps up later this winter.

I guess it comes down to what are the odds the Os and Reds move on and land a SP elsewhere, leaving the Sox holding Cease at least until the deadline?

Yeah I'm just being salty lol. I do think they overvalue him though. Let's see what's up after Soto, Ohtani, and Yamamoto. 

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1 hour ago, ThisIsBirdland said:

 

Of course they are.  I believe they'll wait for Montgomery, Snell and Ohtani to sign too if they can.  But there is such a thing as waiting too long and all the teams that are trying to trade for Cease have players worth acquiring by the Sox.  They'll overplay their hand if they get too cute.

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21 minutes ago, Sports Guy said:

Ohtani is holding up the whole market.

Ohtani and Yamamoto, and then that should unstick things. We haven’t heard a peep about Blake Snell or Jordan Montgomery, who are going to quickly get attention after Yamamoto. 

It makes sense for the White Sox to wait. But the real deciding factor is what other pitching hits the trade market. If Burnes, Bieber and the Miami and Seattle guys are all legitimately in play, that’s going to hurt the Cease market regardless of what happens with the free agents. If those teams are not really serious about moving their guys then the White Sox hold the only real comparable alternative to missing out on a top FA SP.

Cease is the only guy I’m confident is truly likely to be dealt considering all those other teams have intent to be competitive this year. 

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