What's your preferred rotation if we don't land another starter?

[waroriole]

On 1/11/2024 at 12:26 PM, interloper said:

I would go straight to Irvin at #5 and give him another shot to be the innings eater we traded for. Back-to-back 180 inning campaigns at a decent ERA - that is fairly rare in today's game. He's got the stamina and he seemed to fix something after coming back last season. He's my guy. 

Not only do I like Wells and Hall in the bullpen more than starting, but I also think the bullpen really needs those guys in it. If Irvin is going to be at his most useful for this club, it's as a SP. 

I agree with this. Hall and Wells should help us more in the bullpen, but I wouldn’t be opposed to giving Hall one more shot to start. 

[wildcard]

5 hours ago, Orioles0615 said:

Hard time believing they are making the playoffs if this happens

They did last year.  All that has happened is swapping out Gibson for Means who will probably have a better ERA and a full season of GRod.

[wildcard]

5 minutes ago, waroriole said:

I agree with this. Hall and Wells should help us more in the bullpen, but I wouldn’t be opposed to giving Hall one more shot to start. 

I refer you to Tony on your pick of Hall in the rotation.

[Spy Fox]

7 minutes ago, wildcard said:

I refer you to Tony on your pick of Hall in the rotation.

I don't want Hall to be handed a spot, but I want him to be given a chance if he earns it in ST. I think the reward to risk ratio is pretty favorable, and the plug can be pulled at any point if it's not working. 

[Spy Fox]

Some of the reactions in this thread seem to think the rotation is in petty bad shape if we don't bring in someone new. I don't agree with that. I think running with what we've got is a fine rotation that would keep us in contention for the division crown. 

It does leave us more fragile if we had a Rays-like rash of SP injuries. And, it's a missed opportunity to improve, given our low payroll and high prospect capital. 

But the rotation we'd run out there is still solid. 

[G54377]

33 minutes ago, wildcard said:

Who do the O's have that is a better 5th starter?

Right now? Probably nobody. I'd definitely try DL Hall in that spot. We need to sign someone or trade regardless, someone will inevitably get hurt.

[Matt Bennett]

23 hours ago, brooooksy said:

I don’t know why we’re throwing out the duds but his month to month for 2023 looks like:

april: 6.67

may: 2.45

june: 5.44

july: 3.45

august: 2.37

sept/Oct: 6.33

he seems prone to bad stretches and great stretches, that’s what I mean by inconsistent. 

 

Eh, month to month ERA is a crapshoot and not really a meaningful slicing of data. Gerrit Cole's ERA was at 5.18 for May. Kershaw was at 5.55 in May. Kyle Gibson had 2 months over 6.00 ERA. Is "inconsistent" really the term that comes to mind when thinking of Kyle Gibson? He's been consistently useful but below league average through his career. 

I see you've used Kremer's playoff start in his month to month splits. Could you point to me Kremer's "bad stretch" prior to his playoff implosion? He had let up more than 3 runs once in his last 12 starts, granted, there was an outing where he gave up three runs in an abbreviated 3+ innings. 

My point about the duds is not to throw them out but to show that that's how pitchers' ERA's get elevated! If Kremer never had any duds, he'd be a 2.00 ERA guy, which he isn't. No one is. You have scoreless outings and you have duds. Which 3.60 ERA pitcher is giving up 2 runs for 5 innings every start? They don't exist.

I don't see anything that suggests Kremer's variance is greater than any other starter of his caliber.