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14 minutes ago, Frobby said:

Offense is never the only consideration.  The weighting of offense vs. defense may change depending on a team’s other personnel.  

Cool.

I believe Mayo's bat would help the team more than Holliday's glove

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Nice day for Holliday.  Offensively, he had the hustle infield single and a homer.  Defensively, he made a nice backhanded grab of a hard-hit grounder and a jump throw to get the runner, started a 4-6

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2 minutes ago, DirtyBird said:

Cool.

I believe Mayo's bat would help the team more than Holliday's glove

Cool.  But do Mike Elias and Brandon Hyde believe that?  I guess we’ll find out.  

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10 minutes ago, DirtyBird said:

Cool.

I believe Mayo's bat would help the team more than Holliday's glove

I also think the upgrade from Urias to Mayo is a bigger upgrade than Westburg to Holliday, at least for this year.   If I had to choose one over the other,  I'd pick Mayo largely due to the bat being more ready now and also due to whose spot he takes. 

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On 3/17/2024 at 11:58 AM, emmett16 said:

Holliday is a plus defender at a premium position.  Mayo is not.  

I’m on record for like eight or nine months now stating that I think he will be the 2024 OD starter at 2B but he is not a plus defender there. He’s far more equipped to be a better defensive 2B than he what profiles on D as a SS but he’s not remotely a plus defender today. He’s where he is because of his bat. 

Can he become a plus defender at 2B? I think he has a better chance of that than as a SS but time will tell. Him sticking at 2B is the best case scenario for the O’s because it most likely means that Mayo is good enough to play a Major League 3B. 

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I’m on record for like eight or nine months now stating that I think he will be the 2024 OD starter at 2B but he is not a plus defender there. He’s far more equipped to be a better defensive 2B than he what profiles on D as a SS but he’s not remotely a plus defender today. He’s where he is because of his bat. 

Can he become a plus defender at 2B? I think he has a better chance of that than as a SS but time will tell. Him sticking at 2B is the best case scenario for the O’s because it most likely means that Mayo is good enough to play a Major League 3B. 

Maybe it's semantics but I don't think Holliday sticking at 2nd means Mayo is considered good at 3rd.  It sounds like Mayo might be good enough to stick at 3rd but I think they were/are comfortable going with Westburg at 3B regardless of how Mayo looked there.  The plan was Holliday to 2nd whether Mayo could stick at 3rd or not.

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17 hours ago, RZNJ said:

Maybe it's semantics but I don't think Holliday sticking at 2nd means Mayo is considered good at 3rd.  It sounds like Mayo might be good enough to stick at 3rd but I think they were/are comfortable going with Westburg at 3B regardless of how Mayo looked there.  The plan was Holliday to 2nd whether Mayo could stick at 3rd or not.

Agreed.  Holliday at 2B is as much about getting his bat in the lineup as anything else.  But it does mean no one is forcing Gunnar off SS with Mayo as collateral damage at 3B.  (i.e. semantics?)

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