Kyle Bradish Has Sprained UCL, Will Start Season On IL (4/9 Update: Assigned rehab assignment w/Aberdeen)

[Moshagge3]

If TJ is an inevitability for Bradish, Elias should have pushed for him to have it a month ago when the injury first transpired. This is now eating well into his 2025 season, as well.

[wildbillhiccup]

1 minute ago, jcaponio said:

That study was done on injured pitchers, not a bunch of fatsos who work in cubicles. 

Then name some (MLB pitchers) other than Tanaka who avoided surgery. I can name two, Ohtani and deGrom, who didn't avoid it in 2023. 

[interloper]

2 minutes ago, wildbillhiccup said:

...and how many were MLB pitchers who regularly and strenuously use their UCL ligaments? Sure if I'm just sitting on my couch drinking beer I might be able to avoid surgery, but to avoid it as a pitcher seems very unrealistic. 

I think the NIH study was for players. It mentions "return to play" and "sport". Don't know if it's ML players or what. 

[orioles119]

How about we not dick around with this and just get the surgery.

[wildbillhiccup]

5 minutes ago, G54377 said:

The comparison was only about the clubhouse being comfortable bringing him in. That's why I specifically mentioned that in my post. They are obviously not the same thing. 

Nelson Cruz was known to be  great clubhouse guy. Trevor Bauer is an egocentric narcissist who only cares about himself. I'm still not making the connection. 

[G54377]

1 minute ago, wildbillhiccup said:

Nelson Cruz was known to be  great clubhouse guy. Trevor Bauer is an egocentric narcissist who only cares about himself. I'm still not making the connection. 

 

The connection is that our organization asked our team if they were comfortable brining him in. I'm not sure how I can make this any more clear. 

[TopGunnar]

2 minutes ago, wildbillhiccup said:

Nelson Cruz was known to be  great clubhouse guy. Trevor Bauer is an egocentric narcissist who only cares about himself. I'm still not making the connection. 

How long have you personally known Trevor?

[interloper]

Just now, TopGunnar said:

How long have you personally known Trevor?

It's funny to watch you Bauer fanboys, man. 

 

[justD]

1 hour ago, interloper said:

I guess he's not familiar with the famous weams thread that we all reference a million times per season. 

He used to say it all the time.

[wildbillhiccup]

3 minutes ago, TopGunnar said:

How long have you personally known Trevor?

How long have you been defending the character of a stranger? 

[jcaponio]

6 minutes ago, wildbillhiccup said:

Then name some (MLB pitchers) other than Tanaka who avoided surgery. I can name two, Ohtani and deGrom, who didn't avoid it in 2023. 

Off the top of my head, Clayton Kershaw and Zack Greinke. Granted, they both when on to suffer different injuries, but not Tommy John.

[wildbillhiccup]

3 minutes ago, interloper said:

It's funny to watch you Bauer fanboys, man. 

 

If you really want to see their heads explode ask them to play the FMK game with Trevor Bauer, Joe Rogan, and Dave Portnoy. 

[sportsfan8703]

It sure does look like Burnes was the replacement move for Bradish.

[spleen1015]

Legal or not, whether she asked for it or not, if Bauer hit that woman then he's not a guy I want to root for.

[Just Regular]

I feel like "1/3rd" of 2021 MLB pitchers doesn't exactly get at the heart of it - the Clubs stream Driveline students of the week and many have very insubstantial careers but on a simple headcount they are the same as Strasburg or deGrom.    And Seth Johnsons get millions from Clubs in hopes they become MLB stalwarts but some never enter that count.

Last 10 Years, here are 107 pitchers who have cleared 800 innings.    These days 100 IP/season is all some length pitchers clear, and 800 in 10 allows them 2 years down for a TJ.

https://www.fangraphs.com/leaders/major-league?pos=all&stats=pit&lg=all&type=8&month=0&ind=0&startdate=&enddate=&season1=2014&season=2023&qual=800

If anyone better at coding can cross-reference this with the TJ database, I'd take the Over on more than 1/3rd of those names showing up.     Just doing Top 10 by fWAR by hand:

No - Scherzer, Kershaw, Gerrit, Kluber, Nola, Greinke

Yes - deGrom, Verlander, Sale, Wheeler

I'd guess if you have enough MLB talent to sustain a career through Age ~33 such that Clubs actually want to use you a bunch, its more like 50/50.    Those first 10 best of the best become the best of the best in part because their bodies hold together long.

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1gQujXQQGOVNaiuwSN680Hq-FDVsCwvN-3AazykOBON0/edit#gid=0