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If we had a time machine and went back to 1927 would our 2024 Orioles dominate the 27 Yankees?


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@NashLumber and @emmett16 - the difference is mental attitude.   Back then, it was generally the more athletic/skilled players who rise.  Now, top shelf athletes washout because they lack some mental aptitude (work ethic, fortitude, off field stuff gets mixed in more now...).  The bread and depth of competition today is beyond what they faced.  Evem the cream has to keep pushing the limit.

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1 hour ago, btdart20 said:

@NashLumber and @emmett16 - the difference is mental attitude.   Back then, it was generally the more athletic/skilled players who rise.  Now, top shelf athletes washout because they lack some mental aptitude (work ethic, fortitude, off field stuff gets mixed in more now...).  The bread and depth of competition today is beyond what they faced.  Evem the cream has to keep pushing the limit.

You also had to be white.

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6 hours ago, RZNJ said:

Guys could run really fast back in the old days too.

The best time Jesse Owens ever ran in the 100 meter dash was 10.2 seconds. He set this world record on May 25, 1935 at the Big Ten track meet at Ferry Field in Ann Arbor, Michigan, USA.

Carl Lewis

At age 30, he had one of his greatest achievements, breaking the world 100m record with a time of 9.86 while winning the event at the 1991 World Championships. At that same meet, he had one of his greatest disappointments, losing his long jump streak of 65 consecutive victories to Mike Powell.

 

Bolt's record of 9.58 seconds, set in 2009, is considered by many to be one of the greatest athletic achievements in history
 

 

Owens did it on a cinder track, in crappy shoes, with no starter's blocks.  There have been studies that have shown that with modern equipment, he likely would have finished a stride behind Bolt.  Usain Bolt vs. Jesse Owens: Here's the tale of the tape (usatoday.com)

Throwing a baseball there is little different between now and 1927.  Pitchers are still throwing from a mound and using just their right or left hand.  There haven't been technological advancements such as mentioned above that would increase velocity of any pitcher.  There are high schoolers throwing in the mid-90s. The odds are that back in the day there were some guys in the majors doing the same.  

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10 minutes ago, Can_of_corn said:

You also had to be white.

Which raises the point that the 27 Yankees would probably not play us if we went back, so the question is probably moot. 😄

Better question - Could the 2024 Orioles beat the 1966 Orioles? That would be a game I'd like to see.

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7 minutes ago, Too Tall said:

Which raises the point that the 27 Yankees would probably not play us if we went back, so the question is probably moot. 😄

Better question - Could the 2024 Orioles beat the 1966 Orioles? That would be a game I'd like to see.

I don't know.

My guess is most of the players of the era would have been fine with it.

I think it was a vocal minority that was causing the issue.

Ruth played against blacks when barnstorming.

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10 hours ago, Spy Fox said:

I think yes. Corbin Burnes' or Grayson Rodriguez's stuff would be like a supernatural encounter to those guys. Maybe even Bryan Baker's.

That said, Ruth might be on "will he hit the warehouse" watch.

And talk about a different era— the '27 Yankees used 10 pitchers. TOTAL. 

That right here shows the vast differences between today's game and 1927's. That teams could go an entire season using just 10 Pitchers total is mind-boggling. Likely none of them threw remotely hard enough to put much stress on their elbows/shoulders like the Pitchers of today. Which means lots of easy pitches to hit....but enhanced durability for the pitching staff.

Of course the Orioles would dominate the 27 Yankees. It's very possible 2023 Oakland pitching staff could overpower them.

 

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8 hours ago, baltfan said:

They would get murdered.  Team depth would decimate them. Guys like Gehrig and Ruth would be able to adjust some, but they would still struggle mightily.  
 

The one thing I do think is a bit overrated is velocity.  I don’t see any particular reason that guys from that time couldn’t throw hard.  We know of ways to help increase velocity, but for the most part the top velocity hasn’t really changed that much. It isn’t like guys are throwing 110 mph.  Velocity seems to mostly be genetics combined with practice throwing.  Older guys had that.  They could adjust.

Really, that seems to be the #1 priority for most GM's when evaluating a pitcher. Its a different game velocity wise when compared to the 1980's. Those teams are probably a lot closer to the 1927 era than teams of today are. 

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Which era's umps call balls and strikes?  I don't think it would be much of a contest regardless, but I think watching the 1927 Yankees react to the low strike would be more entertaining than the games themselves.

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4 minutes ago, TWpj said:

How much GRIT did the 27 yankees have though? That's not the kind of thing you can measure. Ask former MVP Dustin Pedoria. 

Did they have showers in the lockerooms?  If not I'm guessing a lot of grit.

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5 hours ago, Hank Scorpio said:

Only one man could pull off a post like this. 

When I saw the title, I didn't even need to flinch to see who posted it. 

Gurgi. Legend.

By the way, don't try and BS us into thinking you DON'T have a time machine. You most certainly have a time machine. It is a time machine of magnificent repute, at that. 

Our oldest kid used to do this to me all the time when I first adopted her. Always with the hypotheticals:

"Hey Papa, would your aunt be your uncle if she had balls?"

Not really, that but you get the idea. 

It was more of, "Papa, if you could be dinosaur, which one would you be?"

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