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If this thread was on the correct board, this never would have happened 

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Can someone please get rid of this guy? Hasn’t he violated some rules or something? Not sure I remember another poster making this board this unenjoyable.

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You have to give up something of quality to get quality. Absolutely Ortiz would be a plus defender at 2B and would be doing well "IF" the Orioles would have given him that chance. I think the Orioles

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4 minutes ago, interloper said:

How will they know he's ready?

Honestly, I think it's a Catch 22. I don't think they will know he is ready until they call him up and he proves he belongs. 

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3 hours ago, Sports Guy said:

Judging by the article today, he started to retool but decided to go back to what has worked for him his entire baseball life.

Yes and no.  Sounds like he knew he needed to flatten his bat path a little.

Slightly bent at the knees and hands lower.   I still think his plate coverage isn’t ideal as his first move is not towards the pitcher/CF.   

 

“At the beginning, I was trying to get a little bit more down in my legs and flatten my bat out a little bit, which I do think helped,” Holliday said. “But I didn’t feel like I was getting to the position I thought I needed to be in, so I’m standing back a little bit taller and have my hands a little bit lower now. Just trying to make a good, clean move and making sure I am in my legs, because that was part of it in the big leagues. I wasn’t getting into a position to fire out of. So, standing up a little taller, but still having my legs bent a little bit to be able to make that move efficient.”

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10 minutes ago, sportsfan8703 said:

I think we give him till July then we go call him back up. Once he’s up. He’s up for good. 

I don't think he will be called up that soon. Probably will get another 200 plate appearances - after the trade deadline 

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Norfolk 2021-2024 - all the guys wRC+'s increment quite finely almost one at a time:

Adley 138, Gunnar 137, Vavra 135, Kjerstad 134, Holliday 134, McKenna 134, Mayo 133, Westburg 130, Cowser 129, Ortiz 128, Stowers 121, Norby 117

We have a view of Adley-Gunnar-Westburg performances after about half a year of MLB experience.

This month about 3/9ths of the team PA are with health going to Jorge Mateo, Ryan O'Hearn, and one of the longtime starting outfielders.     They are priority plays, org's decision, over Jackson Holliday, Coby Mayo and Heston Kjerstad.

Two weeks from today, it is conceivable the Yankees could complete a sweep and be about 9 games up with 90 to play.    What might optimal Rest of Season use be then?

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2 hours ago, sportsfan8703 said:

I think we give him till July then we go call him back up. Once he’s up. He’s up for good. 

I think they want him “well done” this go round.  Imagine they will wait as long as that takes for him to absolutely dominate and show he can hit various types of pitches. 

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I sort of want him down all year at this point. He's only 20, I want him to show a lot more power and think he will show that next year. For me, and it's just my opinion, consistent power is the thing that will really tell us he's ready for the big leagues. 

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3 minutes ago, interloper said:

I sort of want him down all year at this point. He's only 20, I want him to show a lot more power and think he will show that next year. For me, and it's just my opinion, consistent power is the thing that will really tell us he's ready for the big leagues. 

6 homers and 15 doubles over 44 games.  Over a full minor league season that’s roughly 45 doubles and 18 homers.  What’s your definition of consistent power?

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6 homers and 15 doubles over 44 games.  Over a full minor league season that’s roughly 45 doubles and 18 homers.  What’s your definition of consistent power?

Not saying he lacks power. I'd like to see more homers though. Maybe slug into the .500s like Norby was. He's close, but he's yet to really go on a power tear. I want him to REALLY hit AAA pitching in a kind of undeniable way. 

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7 minutes ago, interloper said:

I sort of want him down all year at this point. He's only 20, I want him to show a lot more power and think he will show that next year. For me, and it's just my opinion, consistent power is the thing that will really tell us he's ready for the big leagues. 

I don’t get the mentality of needing these guys to be perfect.

Holliday will come up soon and immediately be one of the 5 best players on the team. 
 

I want to win, so I want our best players here.  Waiting for him to hit some subjective threshold makes zero sense.

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2 minutes ago, RZNJ said:

If Norby/Urias/Mateo perform to a satisfactory level it could be awhile.

Urias is up to .715 OPS now. Mateo we know is having a decent season. There doesn't seem to be much of a rush with Holliday.

Santander is also quietly up to .757 OPS and returning to his usual levels. Hays' revival we know about. Bigger predicament seems to be finding ABs for Mayo and Kjerstad, IMO, with perhaps O'Hearn being phased out...but that still only leaves room for one of those two. And Kjerstad really doesn't have much to do at AAA anymore, feels like pretty useless ABs at this point for him. Mayo is getting to that point too and is our biggest potential bat...how would you all sort it all out? 

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