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3 minutes ago, Frobby said:

Yes, he did miss a hittable pitch there.  The strike that was inside definitely hurt Hays in that AB but that next pitch wasn’t where the pitcher wanted.  The one that struck him out was an excellent pitch just a little off the outside corner.  

In fairness, nobody’s doing much off Bernardino this year.  RHB are hitting .125, LHB .122 and he has an 0.78 ERA.  Sometimes you have to give the other guy some credit.  
 

We have been giving the other guy credit for the last 5 months worth of Hays at bats.

Is he going to start getting any credit?

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Rodriguez's changeup was literally a Bugs Bunny Change up. I got an amazing 44% zcontact (Contact when batter swings at a ball in the strike zone) on the changeup.  Aaron Hicks had some of

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Keep your eyes on the road! 1.  Hyde didn’t come out, French did. 2. Rodriguez wasn’t at 100 pitches, he was at 97. 3.  The bullpen had only started warming the previous batter, and was

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6 minutes ago, Sports Guy said:

We have been giving the other guy credit for the last 5 months worth of Hays at bats.

Is he going to start getting any credit?

I’m talking about the whole inning, not just Hays.  He got Mateo to hit a weak grounder in front of home plate, then struck out Gunnar on 3 pitches.  It’s not like Hays was the only one not to come through against the guy.  Then he mowed down Adley (K), O’Hearn (fly out to medium LF) and Cowser (K) the following inning.  He’s a very tough guy to hit.  At least we won’t see him today.  

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Something to keep an eye on - Grayson posted much better spin rates across the board on all of his pitches yesterday, particularly his fastball. His fastball has never had great shape or spin and has more been good through velo and extension, but yesterday it was in plus spin territory. He also, not coincidentally, threw it a lot and had a huge 12 whiffs on his fastball. 

Maybe this was just a day when Grayson was feeling good, but if he’s made some adjustment to unlock more spin then he could be about to hit another level stuff wise. 

I don’t think Grayson’s been pitching great lately, anecdotally he’s thrown a lot of uncompetitive pitches where his mechanics get out of whack and he misses the zone badly, and that makes me concerned the shoulder could still be lingering. But if health isn’t an issue, being that hard to hit in zone can cover for a lot of issues. 

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Something to keep an eye on - Grayson posted much better spin rates across the board on all of his pitches yesterday, particularly his fastball. His fastball has never had great shape or spin and has more been good through velo and extension, but yesterday it was in plus spin territory. He also, not coincidentally, threw it a lot and had a huge 12 whiffs on his fastball. 

Maybe this was just a day when Grayson was feeling good, but if he’s made some adjustment to unlock more spin then he could be about to hit another level stuff wise. 

I don’t think Grayson’s been pitching great lately, anecdotally he’s thrown a lot of uncompetitive pitches where his mechanics get out of whack and he misses the zone badly, and that makes me concerned the shoulder could still be lingering. But if health isn’t an issue, being that hard to hit in zone can cover for a lot of issues. 

I don’t believe he’s still hurt…but I do think there could be some mental hurdles he’s trying to get over.  
 

Not a coincidence imo  that after both injuries he has had, he came back with mechanical issues.

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I don’t believe he’s still hurt…but I do think there could be some mental hurdles he’s trying to get over.  
 

Not a coincidence imo  that after both injuries he has had, he came back with mechanical issues.

Hopefully. Anything shoulder related is alarming, and Grayson is probably a higher injury risk guy given his velo. With him and Bradish’s UCL it’s just going to always feel like that’s looming for those guys, to me anyway.

I do think it is a good sign he had the minimum IL stint and his stuff doesn’t look diminished, it’s just the mechanical inconsistency. Which as you said doesn’t necessarily indicate a physical issue. 

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Every year, it seems there are new stats driven by improved technologies...bat speed, exit velo, angle of elevation, etc

Let's talk spin rate....and I'll use two examples....2400 vs 2200. That is a pretty big difference. Those are revolutions per minute as I understand it.

2400/60 = 40 spins/second...

2200/60 = 36.7 spins per second

It takes about .4 seconds for the ball to reach the plate.

So, 2400 equates to 40 spins/second to 16 spins/.4 sec

2200 equates to 36.7/sec to 14.7 spins/.4 sec

That's a difference 1.3 revolutions for a 200 difference in spin rate.

Do 1.3 revolutions make that much difference? Look at a knuckle ball, basically 0 revolutions/minute and the movement it gets.

Spin rates/minutes are impressive. Spin rates .4 seconds, not so much.

I am an old school believer in location, location, location along with changing speeds.

Educate me.

 

 

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Attractive matchup with Kevin Gausman leading off the series.

Gausman now at 1600 innings of 109 ERA+ in his career; Grayson at 97 ERA+ in the opening chapter of his, now at about 10% of Gausman's career innings.

Maybe an interesting Deal or No Deal right now if you'd lock in Grayson having similar overall career achievement.

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Attractive matchup with Kevin Gausman leading off the series.

Gausman now at 1600 innings of 109 ERA+ in his career; Grayson at 97 ERA+ in the opening chapter of his, now at about 10% of Gausman's career innings.

Maybe an interesting Deal or No Deal right now if you'd lock in Grayson having similar overall career achievement.

I think I'm saying No Deal, but it's a good prompt. The 2010s O's probably did Gausman some analytic disservices relative to what the rest of the league could offer, holding him back to being basically an average SP until his FA years. The 2020s Orioles on the other hand are probably one of the better teams in MLB for Grayson to maximize his results with. 

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3 minutes ago, interloper said:

I kind of get an uneasy feeling with every Grayson start. Never really know which guy you're getting. 

His command can definitely vary widely. But he's at 2 ER or less in 17 of 22 starts since his recall last summer.  3 or 4 ER in four of those other five starts, and only one real blowup in that Angels game last month. So in the end we've been getting Good Results Grayson pretty consistently even if Good Command Grayson is off and on. 

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