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He simply doest have the stamina to dominate in back to back appearances, and he'll  be 36 in 3 weeks. I realize thats the LAST thing you want to hear about a closer, but Kiimbrel simply cannot be effective  with a lot of pitches or innings. Id like to see a closer by committee with Kimbrel maybe going twice a week...with 3 or so days in between. Then maybe consider Suarez, Cano, maybe Wells(when hes back) and then Kimbrel. I cant endure any more stress when this guy pitches...its like watching Don Stanhouse load the bases in every save situation and find a way out...And also, lets forget the Orioles need to score more runs to give these guys some room for error...I also say we MUST sit Santander, and maybe Cowser until they can figure out a strategy with coaches and avoid unproductive at bats...and Mullins isn't much better right now...though he's showing signs of breaking out.

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Santander is probably pushing himself to hard because its money money time this off season.  But he keeps playing like this he will be lucky to get a two year team friendly contract offer from some club.  I know the Orioles wont give him one.  Tony is not going to be here next year.  Book it.

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Kimbrel might be able to have back to back appearances in a few weeks, but Hyde seemed to be unaware that his overwork was the reason Kimbrel was having back soreness.  Maybe this jolted him to the awareness that his usage patterns are going to have to change.  There is no Norfolk shuttle anymore.  Sometimes Hyde will have to leave a reliever in for 2 or even 3 innings even in a close game.  It's likely that the O's could have won on Saturday just as well with Suarez pitching the last 2 innings and the bullpen would still be rested. 

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11 minutes ago, OriolesMagic83 said:

Kimbrel might be able to have back to back appearances in a few weeks, but Hyde seemed to be unaware that his overwork was the reason Kimbrel was having back soreness.  Maybe this jolted him to the awareness that his usage patterns are going to have to change.  There is no Norfolk shuttle anymore.  Sometimes Hyde will have to leave a reliever in for 2 or even 3 innings even in a close game.  It's likely that the O's could have won on Saturday just as well with Suarez pitching the last 2 innings and the bullpen would still be rested. 

And why pull a "dealing" Irvin at 72 pitches?

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20 minutes ago, Gurgi said:

Santander is probably pushing himself to hard because its money money time this off season.  But he keeps playing like this he will be lucky to get a two year team friendly contract offer from some club.  I know the Orioles wont give him one.  Tony is not going to be here next year.  Book it.

No way they re-sign Santander. The problem is, dealing him at the break, unless he's raking...will yield almost nothing for him.

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19 minutes ago, Roy Firestone said:

No way they re-sign Santander. The problem is, dealing him at the break, unless he's raking...will yield almost nothing for him.

It's likely that Kjerstad will produce just as well as Santander going forward.  Of course that a calculated risk.  Santander can at least be traded.  I don't think Hays even has trade value.

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6 minutes ago, Roy Firestone said:

no, you deal him at the break and get what you can..

0% chance this happens. Either Santander is playing well and he is valuable to this team or he is not playing well and he isn’t valuable enough for any team to trade anything worthwhile. 

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12 minutes ago, oriole said:

0% chance this happens. Either Santander is playing well and he is valuable to this team or he is not playing well and he isn’t valuable enough for any team to trade anything worthwhile. 

Exactly, and at least Santander is a platoon hitter when a lefty is on the mound. 

Against righties he needs to stop swinging at everything and draw some walks.  If he gets that in check I think he'll start he'll start hitting righties again.

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Kimbrel is our closer. He has to be able to go back to back. If he can't, Elias has to find someone who can close games back to back, either someone already in the organization or through trade. 

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5 hours ago, Roy Firestone said:

He simply doest have the stamina to dominate in back to back appearances, and he'll  be 36 in 3 weeks. I realize thats the LAST thing you want to hear about a closer, but Kiimbrel simply cannot be effective  with a lot of pitches or innings. Id like to see a closer by committee with Kimbrel maybe going twice a week...with 3 or so days in between. Then maybe consider Suarez, Cano, maybe Wells(when hes back) and then Kimbrel. I cant endure any more stress when this guy pitches...its like watching Don Stanhouse load the bases in every save situation and find a way out...And also, lets forget the Orioles need to score more runs to give these guys some room for error...I also say we MUST sit Santander, and maybe Cowser until they can figure out a strategy with coaches and avoid unproductive at bats...and Mullins isn't much better right now...though he's showing signs of breaking out.

Do you have a checklist that you’re going through of who to create a reverse jinx thread about?

If Kimbrel, Santander and Mullins go on hot streaks, who will we be complaining about next? 

Are we going to get a Gunnar thread when he goes into a prolonged slump?

I’m cool with most of your reactionary thoughts. Look, the O’s pitching wasn’t going great and the Yankees bats were hot. I’m skeptical about Bradish and his injury, and I’m skeptical about Means in general. Kimbrel makes me feel uneasy.

But we MUST sit Santander? Really?

 

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8 hours ago, OriolesMagic83 said:

Kimbrel might be able to have back to back appearances in a few weeks, but Hyde seemed to be unaware that his overwork was the reason Kimbrel was having back soreness.  Maybe this jolted him to the awareness that his usage patterns are going to have to change.  

I'm not sure that Hyde was unaware of the overuse of Kimbrel. It's possible that he just didn't want to say it out loud publicly.

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