FIX THE DANG BULLPEN

[RZNJ]

1 hour ago, sportsfan8703 said:

99 mph sinker. Let’s bring him back. 

He had mental problems, but so does most people in our fanbase. 

You can always come home Jorge. 

95 mph sinker but he’s better than Thyago.

[Frobby]

1 hour ago, sportsfan8703 said:

He had mental problems, but so does most people in our fanbase. 

And I don’t want any of them pitching for the Orioles, either.   If Jorge wants to come here and post in the rant section, he’s more than welcome.  

And to be clear, I’m not against bringing him back because of any possible mental health or clubhouse issues.  I just don’t think he’s likely to be a reliable pitcher.   
 

[Moose Milligan]

Better than Vieira, but that's a low bar to hurdle.

Also, can we take a moment to laugh at just how bad the Mets are?  The harder they try, the worse they get.  I love it.

[clapdiddy]

2 minutes ago, Moose Milligan said:

Better than Vieira, but that's a low bar to hurdle.

Also, can we take a moment to laugh at just how bad the Mets are?  The harder they try, the worse they get.  I love it.

You've got to wonder why the Mets would want a guy from the Angels' system?   He must have had a great interview.

[dystopia]

Can we just stop and appreciate once again that Elias got Cano and Povich for a career 5 ERA pitcher? 

[Frobby]

4 minutes ago, dystopia said:

Can we just stop and appreciate once again that Elias got Cano and Povich for a career 5 ERA pitcher? 

And many people complained about it at the time, though more liked it than didn’t.

[dystopia]

1 minute ago, Frobby said:

And many people complained about it at the time, though more liked it than didn’t.

At the time it was kind of a bad look to trade your closer who had performed well all year when you’re in a Wild Card chase, but it worked out as well as anyone could have hoped for in hindsight. 

[Frobby]

It’s an interesting thread to revisit.  Sports Guy wasn’t a fan: 

“A few days later and I’m still scratching my head at this move.  I just don’t get it.”

Then:

“It is a head scratcher because the return doesn’t justify the trade.  Elias seems to think it is but I think that’s wrong and, more importantly, it’s because I feel he is value building a farm system today over winning today.  I think that’s wrong too.”

Lots of other interesting posts.  

[BohKnowsBmore]

1 hour ago, Frobby said:

It’s an interesting thread to revisit.  Sports Guy wasn’t a fan: 

“A few days later and I’m still scratching my head at this move.  I just don’t get it.”

Then:

“It is a head scratcher because the return doesn’t justify the trade.  Elias seems to think it is but I think that’s wrong and, more importantly, it’s because I feel he is value building a farm system today over winning today.  I think that’s wrong too.”

Lots of other interesting posts.  

I remember a lot of people telling on themselves by constantly mentioning Povich as the Twins’s ~25th ranked prospect and that being evidence of it being a bad trade (he was a recent draftee and that was essentially a placeholder ranking for a third round pick, but he had certainly risen in profile around industry based on velo add)

[interloper]

20 hours ago, Tony-OH said:

Baumann has pitched once for the Marines and walked 2 of the 4 batters he faced. What makes you think he wouldn't be part of the problem still? 

We all know that Baumann has his rough games, but I'd still rather have him than Heasley or Thyago. 

And it looks like Akin hit his usual brick wall the last few appearances, so it would have been justified in hindsight to option him. 

It's a lot of hindsight, admittedly. Regardless, the Orioles would have had to upgrade on Baumann this season eventually, so I do get it. 

[Sydnor]

13 hours ago, 24fps said:

For better or worse, it doesn't strike me as a Mike Elias move to claim him given the glove-throwing and all the rest.

FWIW, Boomer Esiason said on his radio show that Lopez’ head was in a bad place because of his son’s health and the transplant that Mikael is awaiting. This tracks because I’ve never heard anyone call Lopez a bad teammate, and I know from his time in Baltimore that Mikael has had some serious health issues. I also don’t think the Mets did him any favors not having an interpreter with him because I think what he was trying to say is not what the media has run with. If they want to bring him back, I’m fine with it. If they don’t, I’m fine with that too.

Jorge is a human dealing with a very serious situation and I hope for the best for him and his family. It is unfortunate that this is going to follow him because he has had some good moments in his career.

 

[RZNJ]

5 hours ago, dystopia said:

Can we just stop and appreciate once again that Elias got Cano and Povich for a career 5 ERA pitcher? 

You forgot about Juan Nunez who is an actual RHP prospect in Aberdeen.   The 4th guy,  always forget his name, is a 20 yo LHP who’s probably not a real prospect but who knows.

[Grt 2BA FL Gator]

I definitely want Lopez back. Basically no risk. Not worried about his latest situation. He was kinda misinterpreted initially in the post game presser. Aside from this he’s got a good track record as a teammate. 
 

Worth a shot to see if he can harness his stuff again, even if he’s only done it sparingly. 

[Can_of_corn]

4 minutes ago, Grt 2BA FL Gator said:

I definitely want Lopez back. Basically no risk. Not worried about his latest situation. He was kinda misinterpreted initially in the post game presser. Aside from this he’s got a good track record as a teammate. 
 

Worth a shot to see if he can harness his stuff again, even if he’s only done it sparingly. 

He's not no risk.  He's taking up a spot on the 26 man roster.

[Grt 2BA FL Gator]

5 hours ago, Can_of_corn said:

He's not no risk.  He's taking up a spot on the 26 man roster.

That last bullpen spot has been a bit of a revolving door and not quite settled yet. I personally would give him a look.