Bring up Mayo already!!

[RZNJ]

See if we can get anything for Urias.  A reliever or a lower level minor leaguer.   

[Bahama O's Fan]

Seriously  who goes off the 26 for Mayo? I would try to trade Urias for anything you can get.

[RZNJ]

Just now, Bahama O's Fan said:

Seriously  who goes off the 26 for Mayo? I would try to trade Urias for anything you can get.

Urias and Hays.  The two slowest non catchers on the team.  Call up Mayo and Norby.

[SteveA]

10 minutes ago, oriolediehard said:

If we are going to lose, I would rather lose with our future prospects instead of with older washed up players, Hays, Mullins, McCann. Bring up Mayo.

 

LOL.   "If we are going to lose...".   We are playing well over .600 ball.

I'm not saying Mayo shouldn't come up.   But come on, if anyone has paid ANY attention to Elias the past few years, you know he brings guys up when he thinks they are ready to come up.   He isn't going to bring him up because of a 3 game hitting slump.

[eddie83]

4 minutes ago, RZNJ said:

Urias and Hays.  The two slowest non catchers on the team.  Call up Mayo and Norby.

So with the leading offense in the AL let’s deal a guy who can play plus defense at multiple spots so Mayo can play? 
 

Mayo has a ton of questions about his glove at 3rd. As talented as he is it’s no lock he hits right away. 
 

Why call up Norby a guy with a super iffy glove for Hays who has mainly become a platoon OF?

[eddie83]

14 minutes ago, oriolediehard said:

If we are going to lose, I would rather lose with our future prospects instead of with older washed up players, Hays, Mullins, McCann. Bring up Mayo.

 

Orioles are even with a 4 game losing streak 20 games over .500. 

[OsFanSinceThe80s]

6 minutes ago, RZNJ said:

See if we can get anything for Urias.  A reliever or a lower level minor leaguer.   

I had this thought too, If the team is comfortable enough with Mayo's 3B defense then make an opening for him. The odd man out is Urias because Mateo has real value as a utility player and pinch runner.

[eddie83]

18 minutes ago, e16bball said:

McCann. COBY MAYO takes over as backup catcher. 80 arm. Floor is Pudge Rodriguez. Death Valley becomes COBY CANYON.

Fine by me. Play Basallo in CF as well. I hear he covers ground like Paul Blair. 

[Brooks The Great]

3 minutes ago, OsFanSinceThe80s said:

I had this thought too, If the team is comfortable enough with Mayo's 3B defense then make an opening for him. The odd man out is Urias because Mateo has real value as a utility player and pinch runner.

If Elias DFAs Urias, some team may value him enough to offer some kind of asset for him, similar to how Mike Baumann was DFA'd and Seattle sent the O's a low end minor league catcher. 

I like that move to get Mayo up, but bringing Mayo up is more important than clinging onto a bench player like Urias or Mateo either way.

I'd personally release Mateo first because Urias is the more valuable player between the two (which is also why a team would offer a trade for Urias - I don't think any team would offer anything for Mateo, they'd just take the chance of claiming him on waivers). 

[eddie83]

I understand fielding % is a small part of defensive evaluation but Mayo has a .931 FLD % at 3rd and has made 3 errors in 9 games at 1B. 
 

Let’s bring him up in a pennant race and release a proven commodity with the glove so the team leading the AL in runs can get better. Let’s assume he magically improves at a higher level with the glove while also hitting the best arms on the planet. 

[accinfo]

1 minute ago, eddie83 said:

I understand fielding % is a small part of defensive evaluation but Mayo has a .931 FLD % at 3rd and has made 3 errors in 9 games at 1B. 
 

Let’s bring him up in a pennant race and release a proven commodity with the glove so the team leading the AL in runs can get better. Let’s assume he magically improves at a higher level with the glove while also hitting the best arms on the planet. 

He isn’t up because of his defense.  The people running this team value defense.  That is why they are running this team and not the posters here at the Hangout.  He will get his chance eventually.

[Roy Firestone]

15 minutes ago, eddie83 said:

Orioles are even with a 4 game losing streak 20 games over .500. 

I get that. I just think the Orioles need a spark...and Coby Mayo is an option...as was Kjerstad...The Orioles need a more menacing lineup at the bottom of the order.

[RZNJ]

5 minutes ago, eddie83 said:

So with the leading offense in the AL let’s deal a guy who can play plus defense at multiple spots so Mayo can play? 
 

Mayo has a ton of questions about his glove at 3rd. As talented as he is it’s no lock he hits right away. 
 

Why call up Norby a guy with a super iffy glove for Hays who has mainly become a platoon OF?

When’s the last time Urias played 2B?  We have Mateo and Westburg for 2B.    Mayo’s no lock.  Urias is a lock.  To be a .700 OPS guy give or take.  Mayo might be worse.  Might be the same.  Might be better.  Urias won’t be better.  You’re living in the past.  Urias was a plus 3B in 2022.  No matter how many times Kevin Brown calls him a gold glover he’s average at best.  At 3B, from  6 OAA in 2022, -7 in 2023, and a -2 so far this year.  And he’s so slow on the bases.  He’s not terrible by any means so hopefully we can get something.  Someone has to go for the future and the future is now.   
 

Austin Hays is becoming a liability in LF.  He’s a -4 DRS and a -2 OAA.   Once you see Cowser out there and then compare it to Hays it’s like night and day.    He had 3 homers. 2 in one game and another when we were already winning by 20 runs.   He got some pinch hits.  Great.  He’s no threat in the lineup, brings minimal power, no speed, and below average defense.  Let’s get Norby up to play some LF/2B/DH.

The time is now for Mayo and Norby.  The time has passed for Urias and Hays.

 

[SteveA]

7 minutes ago, Roy Firestone said:

I get that. I just think the Orioles need a spark...and Coby Mayo is an option...as was Kjerstad...The Orioles need a more menacing lineup at the bottom of the order.

Why do we need a spark?   We've scored 53 runs in the last 8 games.... that's 6.6 runs per game?    The offense is on quite a roll, if you ask me.   And we've faced Zach Wheeler, Nestor Cortes, Luis Gil, Gerrit Cole, Tanner Bibee, and Framber Valdez in that stretch!

I realize that my post may seem silly to you.   But it's also completely factual.   The idea that our offense is some kind of disaster and that we must bring someone up to spark us is completely ridiculous.   We are the HIGHEST SCORING TEAM IN MLB.   The idea that a 3 game hitting slump is anything but the normal ebb and tide of random chance, and that somehow it means more than the fact that we have averaged 5.19 runs per game in 78 games is just utter nonsense.

There are a lot of good reasons to bring Mayo up, most notably that he has put up great AAA numbers.   But doing it because our offense is bad and needs a spark is not a reason.

 

Edited June 25 by SteveA

[RZNJ]

11 minutes ago, eddie83 said:

I understand fielding % is a small part of defensive evaluation but Mayo has a .931 FLD % at 3rd and has made 3 errors in 9 games at 1B. 
 

Let’s bring him up in a pennant race and release a proven commodity with the glove so the team leading the AL in runs can get better. Let’s assume he magically improves at a higher level with the glove while also hitting the best arms on the planet. 

Just because you lead the league in runs in the first half it doesn’t mean you shouldn’t try to get better.   Standing pat doesn’t guarantee you’re going to lead in runs in the 2nd half.  And stop overrating Urias defense.