The Baltimore Orioles got better this deadline

[jcaponio]

5 minutes ago, Nite said:

Not a single top 100 prospect was traded this deadline by anyone.

The Marlins got Snelling in the Tanner Scott deal. He's solidly in the top 100. But your overall point is correct in that not many of them were moved.

[Nite]

3 minutes ago, Can_of_corn said:

Padres traded Snelling for Scott.

Whoops that was going into the last hour. So 1... 

[O's84]

5 minutes ago, terpoh said:

Fangraphs doesn’t control who we call up and who we don’t

I'm giving you information on to why he's not ready.  I have a hard time believing that Elias' information could be so different than that.  

[DrinkinWithFermi]

11 minutes ago, Billy F-Face3 said:

Players like Rogers are a dime a dozen 

There were reportedly several FOs after him right up until the very end, and their return for him from us seems to prove that a bidding war took place, so it sounds like some very smart baseball people would disagree with that grim assessment of Rogers.

[Since1984]

17 minutes ago, Billy F-Face3 said:

I think you just messed with team chemistry by basically swapping guys out and diminishing organizational depth with no significant improvement to the major league team. Rogers = Irvin and Irvin just got DFA.

Players like Rogers are a dime a dozen and we just gifted 2 top 100 prospects away.

Eflin was a good move that I like. The bullpen might be a little bit better but the problem is you don't know if the new acquisitions can hit the strike zone or whether they are just Fujinami 2.0 and a meltdown of walks forthcoming.

Defensively, I don't see us any better fielding wise.  Offensively, I don't see us any better either.

Irvin didn’t place 2nd in ROY voting. Irvin is far less than Rogers ceiling. Rogers floor > Irvin ceiling 

[Just Regular]

For all we joke about SIGBOT, one of my takeaways from today is Scout Mike Elias buying tools.

[MarCakes21]

Has anyone put together everything we traded for everything we got

Incoming:

Eflin (1.5 years) /Rodgers (2.5 years) /Soto (1.5 years) /Dominguez (club opt) /Jiminez (club opt) /Slater

Outbound:

Horvath (10) / Baumister (17) / Etzel (NA) / Norby (12) / Stowers (NA) / Johnson (9) /Chace (NA)/cash/PTBNL

 

Am I missing something?  Seems like a lot inbound, with some pain outbound, but don't think we sold the farm and solidified many pieces for next season.

[OsFanSinceThe80s]

50 minutes ago, Orioles Jim said:

Cole Irvin being gone helps by being addition by subtraction.

If adding the additional guys clears more of the clutter, then we’ve gotten better on that alone!

Soto/Seranthony/Kimbrel/Cano/Coulombe is potentially a very good end of the bullpen. 

I would have liked getting a better bullpen arm, but the pitching staff is much better positioned for the remainder of the season. Suarez was fading as a starter and Povich needs go to Norfolk and learn an out pitch.

The bullpen is better even if Elias didn't get a Mason Miller or Tanner Scott. The asking price for Tanner Scott was ridiculous. Closer is an issue with Kimbrel, but that can be solved with Coulombe. The time to address the bullpen was before the season and hoping Elias remembers that building the team for 2025.

[Bemorewins]

While I am not all sunshine and rainbows and pretty underwhelmed by what we acquire, I don't think that there can be any argument that we got better through all of these acquisitions.

We are going to still need to resign Burnes or another top of the rotation type pitcher in the offseason. But I am more optimistic about next year with Felix returning (and Mayo and Holliday being full season additions) than I am about our chances this season.

[OriolesUpAndDowns]

So what is the roster now?  

[Aristotelian]

1 hour ago, Nite said:

Not a single top 100 prospect was traded this deadline by anyone.

 

1 hour ago, Can_of_corn said:

Padres traded Snelling for Scott.

And Lesko for Adam. Apparently Preller didn't get the memo.

[1fingerwillie]

2 hours ago, O's84 said:

I don't think Holiday is anywhere close to coming up.

That didn't age well.

[O's84]

Just now, 1fingerwillie said:

That didn't age well.

I think my position was very defensible.  I am happy he is up and hope he is ready this time.  

[Orioles0615]

1 hour ago, bpilktree67 said:

I really liked that we went with guys that are not just rentals but guys we control next year as well. 
 

SP GRod, Efflin, Rodgers, Kremer, Povich, McDermott 

RP Cano, Dominguez, Soto, Coloumbe, Webb, Bautista, Perez, Suarez, Aiken

Injured guys may return at some point in year.  Wells, Bradish, Means(if we give him no deal) 

Wildcard Burnes.  

You swap Bautista for Kimbrel next year that bullpen is nasty.  

That is a weak rotation 

[Alasdaire]

1 hour ago, O's84 said:

I'm giving you information on to why he's not ready.  I have a hard time believing that Elias' information could be so different than that.  

You don't think the general manager of the team who has poured oodles of time, money, and energy into scouting and developing Jackson for years has more information than Fangraphs, who seems to be based this report on having watched a few of Holliday's at bats on a video feed?

Not trying to pick a fight, but I do think fans often underestimate how much more information the organization has on their guys than anyone else. And there's absolutely no reason for them to share that with anyone, including us as fans. I am certain there has been much more going on with Jackson's stint back in Norfolk than we, or Fangraphs, can gleam.