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Nice post.

I agree on all accounts. The Orioles are not in a position to be thrifty. They have ZERO leverage. The stadium is more than half-empty on every given night, save for homestands versus the Red Sox and Yankees, in which case they're full of out-of-town fans.

I'm not declaring Matt Wieters the saviour of this franchise. I don't think that's fair to put on any one man's shoulders. The situation itself, though, will be a clear indicator as to what direction this team is really headed.

The last thing I want to hear come Thursday morning and the O's are Wieters-less are excuses referencing "long-term plans" and "over-priced market".

100% agree....As i have said(and i said the same thing about Loewen), signing him respresents much more than just signing a draft pick.

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Just to clarify...EVERYTHING has to be done before 11:59pm tomorrow, including the physical. Whether or not that's already been done I'm not sure. There can't be an "agreement in principal". It has to be a signed contract with all T's crossed and lower-case J's dotted and filed with Major League Baseball.

I can see it now...We get the contract signed and the physical done but the fax machine doesn't work. :rolleyes:

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Hopefully (if we sign him of course). But he could also be the next Eric Munson too. He is not a sure thing like is being implied. His career as a catcher could take a Brandon Snyder type wrong turn his first summer as an Oriole.

Like I've said, I want him signed - he is a great fit. But he isn't so great a prospect as to give him a blank check and give him whatever Boras wants.

Whether he's the "once-in-a-decade" player Gammons declared him to be or he's the next Eric Munson doesn't matter to me. Right now, he's a VALID and WORTHY #5 draft pick with virtually no negatives on his scouting report. The franchise that drafted him is clouded in a humiliating fog of disconnection with fans and a decade of losing.

Doing whatever it takes to sign Matt Wieters is the right thing to do.

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Didn't our guys talk to Boras? If they felt his asking price was over the top, they shouldn't have drafted him this year.

Yeah they did....but who says what was "understood" then is the same now...like Boras might have "upped" the ante. Wouldn't put it past him.

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It wasn't looking good at lunch time. You can kis the 5th round pick good by also unless McPhail decides to spend some money.

I think i saw Arrieta wanting 900K-1 million....What are we offering? How could we not get him done?

When he was drafted, Jordan said we got 3 first round talents...Wieters, Bascom and Arrieta...So, he wanted him here and knew what it would take.

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Nice post.

I agree on all accounts. The Orioles are not in a position to be thrifty. They have ZERO leverage. The stadium is more than half-empty on every given night, save for homestands versus the Red Sox and Yankees, in which case they're full of out-of-town fans.

I'm not declaring Matt Wieters the saviour of this franchise. I don't think that's fair to put on any one man's shoulders. The situation itself, though, will be a clear indicator as to what direction this team is really headed.

The last thing I want to hear come Thursday morning and the O's are Wieters-less are excuses referencing "long-term plans" and "over-priced market".

You are right on here. The O's have a solid nucleus of pitchers. 2009 could have an offensive foundation including Markakis, Wieters, Teixiera, and the two guys whose last names start with R but escape me at the moment. Or it could be much worse than that. However, for it to become reality, Wieters MUST be signed tomorrow!

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I think i saw Arrieta wanting 900K-1 million....What are we offering? How could we not get him done?

When he was drafted, Jordan said we got 3 first round talents...Wieters, Bascom and Arrieta...So, he wanted him here and knew what it would take.

My understanding is McPhail is the one balking at signing these guys. Could McPhail be the new Syd Thrift to carry out the Angelos Plan?? got to admit that his hiring came out of the blue.

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My understanding is McPhail is the one balking at signing these guys. Could McPhail be the new Syd Thrift to carry out the Angelos Plan?? got to admit that his hiring came out of the blue.

If MacPhail is Syd Thrift part II I am done with this franchise until Angelos no longer owns it...

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My understanding is McPhail is the one balking at signing these guys. Could McPhail be the new Syd Thrift to carry out the Angelos Plan?? got to admit that his hiring came out of the blue.

Are you hearing that Jordan could leave if we don't get these guys signed?

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My understanding is McPhail is the one balking at signing these guys. Could McPhail be the new Syd Thrift to carry out the Angelos Plan?? got to admit that his hiring came out of the blue.

This can't be happening. It is just too ridiculous, right? Even for the O's?

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Wow, if BB is right and MacPhail is the one holding this up when Angelos is giving the go ahead, this is truly horrendous.

Yep, that's the one that got me officially pissed. Maybe they are just screwing with us and just want to make us agonize until Wednesday night. I wish that were true, because if so, they are doing a great job.

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