Poll- Would You Make This Trade?

[DrungoHazewood]

George Sherrill, Andino and Markakis for Hanley Ramirez?

I would do it in a heartbeat if the Marlins could be persuaded (actually fleeced is more the word).

Oh but of course. Who wouldn't trade an overrated LOOGY, a AAA suspect, and the new Ben Grieve for the best player in baseball?

What I need to make is a poll on the over/under for number of minutes until your next thinly-veiled crack at Markakis.

[cindyluvsbrady]

NO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[allstar1579]

Oh but of course. Who wouldn't trade an overrated LOOGY, a AAA suspect, and the new Ben Grieve for the best player in baseball?

What I need to make is a poll on the over/under for number of minutes until your next thinly-veiled crack at Markakis.

I'm going to take 7 minutes. I don't think he could hold out longer without his head exploding

[Old#5fan]

Oh but of course. Who wouldn't trade an overrated LOOGY, a AAA suspect, and the new Ben Grieve for the best player in baseball?

What I need to make is a poll on the over/under for number of minutes until your next thinly-veiled crack at Markakis.

Didn't you just make a crack at Markakis in calling him the new "Ben Grieve'? I gotta admit, that was funny coming from you.:clap3::laughlol:

[Dadaist]

Markakis wishes he was Ben Grieve. Grieve was Rookie of the Year and an All-Star!

[Fairfax Bird]

Didn't you just make a crack at Markakis in calling him the new "Ben Grieve'? I gotta admit, that was funny coming from you.:clap3::laughlol:

Sarcasm ... satire ... no ... o.k.

[O'sfan07]

Whats your problem with Markakis?

I cant remember reading a thread that didnt involve you bashing him.

[Old#5fan]

Whats your problem with Markakis?

I cant remember reading a thread that didnt involve you bashing him.

I have no problem with Markakis. The problem I have had was the ridiculous overating of his abilities and projected abilities on the OH. That has seemed to have somewhat subsided after his performance so far this season, but at one time the threads here glorifying him as a Gold Glover, All-Star, future HOFer type ad nauseum just annoyed the living crap out of me as I just could never see it.

He is a good, solid player but not an -all-star, not a Gold Glover and not a number three hitter. This has been my stance all along, yet I have been accused of hating him because of it, which is simply untrue. I just think he needs to be realistically viewed and I think I am one of the few here who does so and always has.

[heeeman22]

Only on Orioles board. People would not make this trade. Marlins would be laughed out of the league if that's all they got.

[Moose Milligan]

:laughlol::laughlol::laughlol: OldFan hates him and doesn't think he's a great ballplayer yet he thinks he's good enough to be a centerpiece for a Hanley Ramirez deal.

OldFan, pass what you're smokin dude. Puff puff give. :rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl:

[Old#5fan]

:laughlol::laughlol::laughlol: OldFan hates him and doesn't think he's a great ballplayer yet he thinks he's good enough to be a centerpiece for a Hanley Ramirez deal.

OldFan, pass what you're smokin dude. Puff puff give. :rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl:

Yeah, if we could fleece the Marlins!:laughlol: I would fully expect them to settle for no less than Adam Jones as the centerpiece if they would even consider the trade.

[Burg]

I have no problem with Markakis. The problem I have had was the ridiculous overating of his abilities and projected abilities on the OH. That has seemed to have somewhat subsided after his performance so far this season, but at one time the threads here glorifying him as a Gold Glover, All-Star, future HOFer type ad nauseum just annoyed the living crap out of me as I just could never see it.

He is a good, solid player but not an -all-star, not a Gold Glover and not a number three hitter. This has been my stance all along, yet I have been accused of hating him because of it, which is simply untrue. I just think he needs to be realistically viewed and I think I am one of the few here who does so and always has.

This is a criminally obtuse statement.

Why you are continually allowed to make these "stir the pot" ridiculous posts about Nick is beyond me. I get that everyone can have their opinion but yours has reached an agenda level.

[Moose Milligan]

Yeah, if we could fleece the Marlins!:laughlol: I would fully expect them to settle for no less than Adam Jones as the centerpiece if they would even consider the trade.

The Adam Jones of the .540 June OPS? Or the Adam Jones who was killing it for the first month of the season?

Will the real Adam Jones please stand up?

[Tony-OH]

I have no problem with Markakis. The problem I have had was the ridiculous overating of his abilities and projected abilities on the OH. That has seemed to have somewhat subsided after his performance so far this season, but at one time the threads here glorifying him as a Gold Glover, All-Star, future HOFer type ad nauseum just annoyed the living crap out of me as I just could never see it.

He is a good, solid player but not an -all-star, not a Gold Glover and not a number three hitter. This has been my stance all along, yet I have been accused of hating him because of it, which is simply untrue. I just think he needs to be realistically viewed and I think I am one of the few here who does so and always has.

I know it's easy for people to pile on you, but honestly, I'm not so sure what's wrong with this opinion? I think Markakis has All-star capability, but he's never going to be a 35-40 homer guy and realistically, he makes a better number two hitter than number three on a contending team.

I would disagree with you on the GG thing although I think the whole GG thing is ridiculous since the year Ripken lost it despite making three errors all year at SS. Defensively, he's one of the best right-fielders in the game for me.

Either way, no way the Marlins would take that trade. He's a Latin super star shortstop in Miami and they already can't sell tickets. Imagine if they got rid of the one marketable guy?

[Sanfran327]

I have no problem with Markakis. The problem I have had was the ridiculous overating of his abilities and projected abilities on the OH. That has seemed to have somewhat subsided after his performance so far this season, but at one time the threads here glorifying him as a Gold Glover, All-Star, future HOFer type ad nauseum just annoyed the living crap out of me as I just could never see it.

He is a good, solid player but not an -all-star, not a Gold Glover and not a number three hitter. This has been my stance all along, yet I have been accused of hating him because of it, which is simply untrue. I just think he needs to be realistically viewed and I think I am one of the few here who does so and always has.

OldGuy,

I've always agreed with you about Markakis. I think he's a litter overrated around here offensively, but defensively, I have to disagree. He's a pretty damn good right fielder. I don't know that he'll ever win a Gold Glove, but he's certainly going to be in many of the discussions. If the awards were given to RF, LF, and CFers, he'd almost certainly win one or more. Unfortunately, it's given to the top three OFers in each league, and that's pretty elite company. It'd be a hell of an honor to win one, but sometimes (aka most of the time) you turn it into some kind of knock on Nick that he may not win one. You just take it a little further than you really need to, hence the agenda comments.

Offensively, I agree with your assessment. He's not a #3 hitter on a championship team. Whether other fans want to admit it or not is their business. He'd make a good #2 hitter, #6 hitter, or in a pinch, a decent leadoff hitter (perhaps down the road once BRob is gone or begins to age beyond leadoff hitter status), but I agree, he doesn't fit the ideal profile of a #3 hitter. I want me #3 hitter hitting 30 HRs, not 20. He's got the potential to drive in a ton of runs in the 6 spot, or be a nice tablesetter with BRob at #2. But, simply, a #3 hitter he is not.