Jump to content

Ranking the Top Ten Position Prospects


HoodGuy007

Recommended Posts

Since I issued the challenge in the pitchers thread I might as well give it a shot...

1. Brandon Snyder

2. Caleb Joseph

3. Ryan Adams (yes, I'm an Adams mark - sue me)

4. Xavier T. Avery

5. Ronnie Welty

6. Matt Angle

7. L.J. Hoes

8. Tyler Henson

9. Corey Thomas

10. Justin Turner

Just missing the cut were Florimon and Hudson. After that - can't say I really follow anyone that closely at this point.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

That's good. So do I. Since Widlansky is 4 years older than Rowell maybe you should still have faith in Rowell as well?

We all hope for Billy's success I'm sure. It's the exalted status given to him for no other reason than where he was picked in the draft that irks some of us. His purported prima donna attitude hasn't helped either.

Sooner or later the "potential" on the prospect graph needs to be supported by some "results". No?

Link to comment
Share on other sites

I'm not going to lie, butthis is a very weak bunch, especially compared to the pitchers.

Same as before:

Top notch:

Brandon Snyder

Next Rung in no particular order:

Caleb Joseph

Billy Rowell

Next rung in no particular order

Xavier Avery

LJ Hoes

Pedro Florimon

Tyler Henson

Ryan Adams

Brandon Waring

Matt Angle

Ronnie Welty

Blake Davis

Corey Thomas

Next rung:

Tyler Kolodny

Garabez Rosa

Miguel Abreu

Too early

Any of the 2009 draft picks

Link to comment
Share on other sites

We have some raw talent that needs to come through, and it lacks star-power right now, but I think there is some solid talent there. Here's my shot:

1. Brandon Snyder - no doubt our best position prospect

2. Caleb Joseph - catcher who has come along quickly at bat and in the field

3. Xavier Avery - all the tools and made some solid progress in Delmarva

4. Brandon Waring - very solid numbers, will his funky swing play up?

5. Ronnie Welty - when he adds strength, will be a stud!

6. Billy Rowell - He still has a world of talent, results will come if he can keep maturing and maintain his confidence.

7. Ryan Adams - Needs to stay healthy, work through the throwing issues at 2B, the bat will shine through.

8. Pedro Florimon - fading some, but what a great start...talent is there and has some time left.

9. Tyler Henson - still has as much raw talent as anyone in the organization, SO's and move to the OF have his value taking a hit...he can be up next to Avery if he shows better plate discipline.

10. Garabez Rosa - he's 19 and at Aberdeen, has a lot of promise...needs to cut down on SO's

The Next Five: (in any order)

Corey Thomas 3B

LJ Hoes 2B

Kyle Hudson OF*

Greg Miclat SS#

Joe Mahoney 1B*

Link to comment
Share on other sites

I'm not going to lie, butthis is a very weak bunch, especially compared to the pitchers.

Same as before:

Top notch:

Brandon Snyder

Next Rung in no particular order:

Caleb Joseph

Billy Rowell

I'm a little surprised you're still hanging on to Billy Rowell, even at this level. At the moment, I really don't see a reason to rank him ahead of, say, Ryan Adams.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Mine is:

1: Snyder

2: Joseph

3: Welty

4: Avery

5: Hoes

6: Turner

7: Townsend

8: Adams

9:Waring

10: C. Thomas

If we sign Givens, hes in there somewhere. Dalles has a chance to be somewhere on here depending on how well his bat comes through. Even Devin Harris could be here, it all depends on how well they do in pro ball....

Last year after the draft if smoeone would have told you that in a year Joseph would be our 2nd best position player, Id have called you a liar....

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Mine is:

1: Snyder

2: Joseph

3: Welty

4: Avery

5: Hoes

6: Turner

7: Townsend

8: Adams

9:Waring

10: C. Thomas

If we sign Givens, hes in there somewhere. Dalles has a chance to be somewhere on here depending on how well his bat comes through. Even Devin Harris could be here, it all depends on how well they do in pro ball....

Last year after the draft if smoeone would have told you that in a year Joseph would be our 2nd best position player, Id have called you a liar....

I liked the Joseph pick a lot. He profiled, to me, as a potential back-up catcher with pop. I haven't seen him this year, so I'm not sure if he's shortened his swing at all. I'll be interested to see him at the upper-levels. My first thought was that he'd shift to 2B. Anyone know how his receiving is progressing. If I recall from his college days, he had a solid transfer but a long arm action and spotty accuracy.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Jospeh threw out 41% of basestealers last year but only 27% so far this year. The former, as you know, is a very good number. The latter is probably below average although it's always hard to tell how much of that is on the catcher and how much of that is on the pitchers. Although is bat will have much better value as a catcher, the O's need to seriously consider at least getting Jospeh some time at 3B or 2B if they feel is bat has the potential of a ML regular at either position. While a young backup catcher who can hit a little is a nice luxury to have, it would be even nicer to have a young plus bat at 3B. Joseph (cross fingers) shows no signs of slowing down. In fact, he seems to be getting better as the year progresses. With a real good chance to lead the Carolina League in hitting, he's really moved up the list of the league OPS leaders. He's now #3.

The caught-stealing percentages certainly don't tell the whole story, but it's nice info to have (regardless of it being lo-minors numbers). I agree he's having a terrific year.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Would Miguel Abreu drafted in the 20th round by the O's be a prospect. Although he is older he is producing with the bat. .300, 4 HR, 29 RBI. He will start at 2nd base for the Southern Division at the Eastern League Allstar game in Trenton, NJ. I was wondering your opinion on this type of player as a "filler" or someone the O's could use even as trade filler?

My second thought is Caleb Joseph. I understand he could be trade bait for the right offer.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Archived

This topic is now archived and is closed to further replies.

  • Posts

    • It's hard to judge. I remember the Spring Eddie Murray had to make the team. I also remember many mirages.
    • I am definitely guilty of this. Just makes the spring more interesting if you think the stats matter when we all know they don't. The one thing that's worth paying attention to is injuries or physical changes, like a pitcher getting a bump in velocity. One example is when Britton showed up to camp throwing that 98 mph sinker and all of a sudden people started talking about him as closer. I was naturally skeptical but the spring speculation turned out absolutely correct in that case.  Of course, similar comments were made about Jason Garcia when we grabbed him in the Rule 5 the following year. Stuff like, "He throws 98 and the ball has a different sound when it hits the catcher's glove". We all remember how that turned out. 
    • I think they mean a little something, but it is more about the process. Mediocre or poor process can yield good results briefly, but it will be exposed when the season gets rolling. Spring training games are exhibition games to get the players ready for full speed and a regular season workload. You’d rather have good results, but it really doesn’t matter much. The coaches see the work that goes on behind the scenes, and that tells the bigger story.
    • Depends on the situation I suppose, and the track record of the player in question.  A vet who has proven himself to be good, or bad, isn't someone that I put a bunch of weight on their numbers, good or bad.  Two examples right now.  I don't really care about how good Burnes has looked or what his numbers currently are in the spring.  He's been one of the top pitchers in baseball for the past handful of years, and I trust he'll be fine.  At the same time I don't really care that Mateo has a .943 OPS this spring.  I've seen enough of him over the past few seasons to be fairly certain just what we have, and what we don't have, with him, so his spring training numbers don't really move me much.   Rookies are a bit different to me.  Unlike most 'vets', the rookies are still improving and have room to grow, so to speak.  They are also, in some cases, facing their first real taste of MLB pitching, though of course we know many of the pitchers in the spring will be in the milb come OD, and even the pitchers that are going to make the MLB teams aren't often on the top of their game or giving full effort.  But it still is the first real taste we get of them against something other than just their minor league peers.  Since they have a much smaller body of work than a vet, their spring training numbers tend to carry more weight with me simply as they don't have years of prior stats to either discount spring struggles or spring successes.   Spring training numbers need taken with a grain of salt, sure.  But just like most of us use SOME SSS numbers to help reinforce our thoughts and opinions, spring is the same way, SSS though with more volatility behind them, IMO.  
    • You could say that about any opinions expressed on this board, but what fun would that be?😉
    • Sometimes spring performance means something, sometimes it’s meaningless.  You kind of have to leave it to the professionals to determine which is which.  
    • Gunnar at SS and Holliday at 2B does make the most sense for the team.   Elias and Hyde agree,  IMO.   Of course, it will take another 5 years to prove it.
  • Popular Contributors

×
×
  • Create New...