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You mean giving Ramon, Baez, Walker, and Bradford 60 million for a last place team isn't the best way to build an organization? Really? No way!

What was I thinking, of course overpaying for bullpen arms is the best way to do things! Why try to use your cheap, second tier starter talent? That's not efficient at all..

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What was I thinking, of course overpaying for bullpen arms is the best way to do things! Why try to use your cheap, second tier starter talent? That's not efficient at all..

The sad thing is I distinctly remember a lot of praise the O's got for signing those guys and fixing their crappy bullpen. Who knew!

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The sad thing is I distinctly remember a lot of praise the O's got for signing those guys and fixing their crappy bullpen. Who knew!

And I'll admit to being one of them. I thought (wrongly) that the BP had been so bad that spending a few bucks just to have pitchers to get us from the 6th through the 8th was worth it.

For our money we got one decent year of Walker, one and a half of Bradford (thank God for that PTBNL), about one of an effective Baez, and 5 minutes of Williamson.

And that axiom about BP guys never being worth it in FA panned out once more.

Note to everyone from the first 15 pages: This isn't exactly what I expected, but it hasn't made me jump off the cliff, either. Most of our problems stem from players, young and old, who have never been considered as part of the solution screwing up. I wish Huff would hit better, but I'd be more worried if Wieters was hitting .175 and Reimold had 109 Ks and Hernandez had pitched like Berken.

Most of the young players, from Matt to Kam have represented up to this point.

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Note to everyone from the first 15 pages: This isn't exactly what I expected, but it hasn't made me jump off the cliff, either. Most of our problems stem from players, young and old, who have never been considered as part of the solution screwing up. I wish Huff would hit better, but I'd be more worried if Wieters was hitting .175 and Reimold had 109 Ks and Hernandez had pitched like Berken.

Most of the young players, from Matt to Kam have represented up to this point.

I agree here. Most of the youngens have definitely represented. If they were screwing up, or looked overmatched, I would be worried.

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