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Care to elaborate on the experience part? Jauss has been in the majors longer than Trembley has. And he's also been an advance scout and the director of player development for the Red Sox.

But getting away from that. What is it that Trembley will do that will help us win ballgames in the next two months, that somebody like Jauss can't?

Experience as a major league manager, minor league manager, and as a manager/coach with the Orioles.

As far as Trembley doing what Jauss can't, I just don't think replacing Trembley with a Trembley guy will do anything but make it more of the same. If you want to make a statement without alienating players who support DT, wait until the offseason and clean house. Otherwise the best way to do it would be to evaluate everything this offseason and act from there.

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Care to elaborate on the experience part? Jauss has been in the majors longer than Trembley has. And he's also been an advance scout and the director of player development for the Red Sox.

But getting away from that. What is it that Trembley will do that will help us win ballgames in the next two months, that somebody like Jauss can't?

What is it that Jauss will do that will help us win ballgames in the next two months, that somebody like Trembley can't?

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What is it that Jauss will do that will help us win ballgames in the next two months, that somebody like Trembley can't?

Different voice, different managing strategy.

Different in this case, might mean better...

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What makes you think he'd have different strategies? I'm fairly certain that he and Trembley talk about most moves prior to making them. Yes, there may be some differences, but on the whole I suspect you'd be just as frustrated by Jauss as you have been by Trembley.

I'm sure we could have Sparky friggin' Anderson as manager and he would find something to complain about.

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What makes you think he'd have different strategies? I'm fairly certain that he and Trembley talk about most moves prior to making them. Yes, there may be some differences, but on the whole I suspect you'd be just as frustrated by Jauss as you have been by Trembley.

At least the players would know that how Trembley managed and the results he got were unacceptable.

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Having Roche go on MASN and tell the world that the entire O's fanbase was ripped that Wieters wasn't playing today is a good way to erode Trembley's credibility with the front office.

As is Roche discussing that Trembley and Rich Hill were telling the media wildly different stories about what was going on with Hill. The Hill thing is probably all Hill's fault for saying he had a torn labrum to the media without telling his manager first, but it sure made Trembley look foolish that a bunch of reporters knew about the labrum tear before he did.

This whole team is a train wreck right now. I think Trembley's days are numbered.

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I wouldn't make a change during the season and I would let the season play out before determining whether or not I think he should be back or not.

What I don't understand is the position that he doesn't have the players implying that the results aren't on him. For me I would judge him based on the talent... As a manager with the talent level of the team he has led have the Baltimore Orioles overachieved, done about as well as expected or underachieved. If at the end of the year it can be said that the team has underachieved under his tuteledge a change might be the right choice.

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Looks like Trembley heard what I was saying about relievers. Nice to see Albers work to the 8th and JJ take both the 8th and 9th. That's much easier on the pen and contrary to modern belief, can be done.

DT, if you're reading this, I am listening to offers in any coaching capacity. :D

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I'll ask again, in what world do you think the players believe that losing is acceptable?

He just wants to see DT embarrass guys in public. Unless the manger makes players the subject of public shame and scorn, JTrea assumes that the players will succeed at pursuing their real agenda, which is to get paid for being losers. Evidently, what players really want is to get away with something they shouldn't. After all, why bother to win if you can get paid for losing? He thinks player motivation is kinda like a kid who wants his dad to give him his allowance even though he did a crappy job of mowing the lawn. Same basic thing. And we certainly can't have that.

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Looks like Trembley heard what I was saying about relievers. Nice to see Albers work to the 8th and JJ take both the 8th and 9th. That's much easier on the pen and contrary to modern belief, can be done.

DT, if you're reading this, I am listening to offers in any coaching capacity. :D

He used Johnson, his set-up guy both nights with leads in the 8th inning, what's the difference? The only reason Johnson finished the game was the 2 runs in the 8th. There is no way you let Hendrickson pitch the 8th inning last night.

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He used Johnson, his set-up guy both nights with leads in the 8th inning, what's the difference? The only reason Johnson finished the game was the 2 runs in the 8th. There is no way you let Hendrickson pitch the 8th inning last night.

Why not? He's one of our best relievers and had a scoreless inning the inning before and the ability to pitch multiple innings with ease.

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