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What if he can't move him and make the team better long term? Would you rather just trade GS anyway because you think he is at his highest value to the O's? Would you accept a DeWitt, Elbert deal rather than not deal him? Bell even up?

I would probably not take just Bell or Wood straight up, but I would take one of them plus a lesser prospect (maybe a pitcher in A ball with high upside). I am not as big into quantity over quality as some others on the board though so I may not be the person to ask. IMHO, a potential starting 3B for the next 8 years is a good return for Sherrill, but that is why AM gets paid to do this I guess. He is a much better poker player than I am. ;)

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I'm not sure I believe that keeping Sherrill is in our best interest long term at this point.

He's a free agent at the end of 2011, so he's not exactly in the O's long term plans.

He's almost certainly not going to have higher value than he has right now.

The O's have other options for closer, but almost none at 1b or 3b.

This is what good teams in rebuilding mode do. They trade guys at peak value to fill positions of need elsewhere. Clearly we have to get pieces we need in any Sherrill trade, but given the extensive interest from other clubs, there has to be a deal out there somewhere that is worth doing.

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I'm not sure I believe that keeping Sherrill is in our best interest long term at this point.

He's a free agent at the end of 2011, so he's not exactly in the O's long term plans.

He's almost certainly not going to have higher value than he has right now.

The O's have other options for closer, but almost none at 1b or 3b.

This is what good teams in rebuilding mode do. They trade guys at peak value to fill positions of need elsewhere. Clearly we have to get pieces we need in any Sherrill trade, but given the extensive interest from other clubs, there has to be a deal out there somewhere that is worth doing.

But if you can't get 1B/3B in return do you trade him anyway?
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See now I think the Indians got quite the haul... Just goes to show, two different opinions... :D

From the Jim Callis Chat:

Glen (Philadelphia)

Ken Rosenthal is reporting the Phillies acquired Cliff Lee and Ben Francisco for Knapp, Donald, Marson, and Carasco. Thoughts on this deal?

Jim Callis (2:09 PM)

Stunned, frankly. From everything we've read about the Phillies, it seems the four pieces they value the most right now are in some order, Kyle Drabek, Dominic Brown, J.A. Happ and Michael Taylor. The Indians didn't get any of them. They got one high-upside guy (Knapp), and he's in low Class A and has some shoulder fatigue. The rest of the guys are solid regulars at best--they're not stars. Lee is very affordable for next season, and the AL Central is a very winnable division. I don't like this trade at all for the Indians. From the Phillies' standpoint, this is a great deal, to hold on to the young guys you want and get a frontline starter. I'd rather have Halladay than Lee, but I'd rather give up this package for Lee than meet J.P. Ricciardi's reported demands for Halladay.

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From the Jim Callis Chat:

Glen (Philadelphia)

Ken Rosenthal is reporting the Phillies acquired Cliff Lee and Ben Francisco for Knapp, Donald, Marson, and Carasco. Thoughts on this deal?

Jim Callis (2:09 PM)

Stunned, frankly. From everything we've read about the Phillies, it seems the four pieces they value the most right now are in some order, Kyle Drabek, Dominic Brown, J.A. Happ and Michael Taylor. The Indians didn't get any of them. They got one high-upside guy (Knapp), and he's in low Class A and has some shoulder fatigue. The rest of the guys are solid regulars at best--they're not stars. Lee is very affordable for next season, and the AL Central is a very winnable division. I don't like this trade at all for the Indians. From the Phillies' standpoint, this is a great deal, to hold on to the young guys you want and get a frontline starter. I'd rather have Halladay than Lee, but I'd rather give up this package for Lee than meet J.P. Ricciardi's reported demands for Halladay.

Totally agree with Callis...This wasn't a good deal for Cleveland, at least right now...Things could change of course.

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