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So, $500 that Nick bats third and Wieters 5th or 6th on OD?

Yep, exactly. Just keep it simple... no if's or but's, just one simple "and" and that's it.

Either that's where those 2 guys are in the OD lineup or it isn't... no back doors or excuses...

Actually, that's not even the bet really...i said, as of right now, that is how I think DT would align it...So, how are we going to figure this out? I am open to suggestions from you.

Sure it is "really"... we're not betting later, we're betting right now... whatever DT decides between now and then is just how it goes, it doesn't change anything about the bet, it only affects who wins the bet...

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Remember when they stubbornly kept slotting Sosa in the cleanup spot? Hope that doesn't happen again!

Sosa at least had the credentials.

How about the time they put Kevin Millar there?

I wouldn't put it past DT to do something like that if MacPhail doesn't give him a better alternative.

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So, $500 that Nick bats third and Wieters 5th or 6th on OD?

Actually, that's not even the bet really...i said, as of right now, that is how I think DT would align it...So, how are we going to figure this out? I am open to suggestions from you.

Seems prety simple to me. You say Nick bats 3rd OD and Witers bats 5th or 6th. If they get another middle of the order bat like Vlad or Johnson or Holliday, the bet is off. Personally I hope the bet is off.:laughlol:
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Seems prety simple to me. You say Nick bats 3rd OD and Witers bats 5th or 6th. If they get another middle of the order bat like Vlad or Johnson or Holliday, the bet is off. Personally I hope the bet is off.:laughlol:

No, the bet is not off. Who asked you? You can make your own bet, don't go sticking your nose into mine.

We're betting now about what happens later. Either the OD lineup has Nick at 3 and Matt at either 5 or 6, or else it doesn't.

If it does, then I pay him. If it doesn't, then he pays me. This has nothing to do with you.

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Yep, exactly. Just keep it simple... no if's or but's, just one simple "and" and that's it.

Either that's where those 2 guys are in the OD lineup or it isn't... no back doors or excuses...

Sure it is "really"... we're not betting later, we're betting right now... whatever DT decides between now and then is just how it goes, it doesn't change anything about the bet, it only affects who wins the bet...

My point is, my original comment was that AS OF RIGHT NOW, that's how I think DT would structure the lineup.

Also, I did clearly state that I believe it could change.

So, that was what I said...There is no back pedalling...Just that's how it stands right now.

Not sure what we will add in terms of players that could change that.

But yea, I am still comfortable assuming that Nick will bat third and Wieters 5th or 6th to start the year...So, I am cool with that bet.

Also, I am curious where you think they will start the season batting?

Also, the bet assumes both are healthy enough to be in the lineup on OD.

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The whole point of the bet is that SG was saying, right now, that he knew DT would be clueless enough to bat Markakis 3rd and Wieters 5th or 6th.

Rshack made the bet because there are soooo many variables still left that could affect that (like signing another player) which is why everyone gave SG a hard time for ripping DT based on his own imagination.

So why would the bet be off if the Orioles sign anyone? That's the whole point of the bet!

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The whole point of the bet is that SG was saying, right now, that he knew DT would be clueless enough to bat Markakis 3rd and Wieters 5th or 6th.

Rshack made the bet because there are soooo many variables still left that could affect that (like signing another player) which is why everyone gave SG a hard time for ripping DT based on his own imagination.

So why would the bet be off if the Orioles sign anyone? That's the whole point of the bet!

Key words there.

I love it when people stick their nose in other poeple's business and then come in with an inability to comprehend the points being made.

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The whole point of the bet is that SG was saying, right now, that he knew DT would be clueless enough to bat Markakis 3rd and Wieters 5th or 6th.

Rshack made the bet because there are soooo many variables still left that could affect that (like signing another player) which is why everyone gave SG a hard time for ripping DT based on his own imagination.

So why would the bet be off if the Orioles sign anyone? That's the whole point of the bet!

Thank you. SG is plenty good at weaseling out of stuff all by himself, he doesn't need Gordo's help about that...

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Thank you. SG is plenty good at weaseling out of stuff all by himself, he doesn't need Gordo's help about that...

LOL..I already said the bet is on genius...Even though its not what i said..But who cares....I still think that's will happen on OD, regardless of who we pick up.

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Pie is not going to be the starting LF unless something happens to Reimold or he is not ready yet. Just like Reimold will not play 1B.
Pie will see plenty of time in LF this year. Reimold will get more playing time there at the beginning of the season. But unless he dramatically improves his defense from last year (which I think is possible since he was fighting foot injuries) or unless Pie struggles with the bat, Pie will most likely take over and end up with more of the playing time in LF by the time the season ends.

Pie is just too much better than Reimold defensively to not put him out there if his bat is playing well enough. If he's in the 775-800 OPS range, that's our best configuration, with Reimold in LF. Both will get plenty of time out there, though.

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My point is, my original comment was that AS OF RIGHT NOW, that's how I think DT would structure the lineup.

Also, I did clearly state that I believe it could change.

So, that was what I said...There is no back pedalling...Just that's how it stands right now.

Not sure what we will add in terms of players that could change that.

But yea, I am still comfortable assuming that Nick will bat third and Wieters 5th or 6th to start the year...So, I am cool with that bet.

OK... so you're agreeing to what I said below... right?

Yep, exactly. Just keep it simple... no if's or but's, just one simple "and" and that's it.

Either that's where those 2 guys are in the OD lineup or it isn't... no back doors or excuses... whatever DT decides between now and then is just how it goes, it doesn't change anything about the bet, it only affects who wins the bet...

Also, the bet assumes both are healthy enough to be in the lineup on OD.

Yes, the bet does *assume* that... but the bet has no back door excuses about getting out of it if somebody stubs their toe or something.

The bet is about the actual OD lineup regardless of when it's decided or why. The bet has no room for stories about why it's different if it's different...

Also, I am curious where you think they will start the season batting?

Beats me. I know what I'd do if it was up to me. I'd do BRob, Nick, Nolan, Matt, AJ, and then Luke as 1-6, but it's not up to me.

If I had to guess, I'd guess Nick at 3 and Matt at 4. But a lot of this depends on where DT wants to put AJ and Nolan. I think the main reason Nick is 3 is because DT might put Nolan 2. I wouldn't be surprised to see BRob, Nolan, Nick, Matt, AJ, Luke... nor would I be surprised to see Nick and Matt where you have predicted either. I might lose the bet or I might not. I'm not sure I'll win, but I think I'll win...

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